X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [129.116.87.143] (HELO MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 1002721 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:12:50 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=129.116.87.143; envelope-from=mark.steitle@austin.utexas.edu X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: fuel pump mounting ( fuel system architecture) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:12:04 -0500 Message-ID: <87DBA06C9A5CB84B80439BA09D86E69E016C1A20@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: fuel pump mounting ( fuel system architecture) Thread-Index: AcVxRTvrDQbiNTKZQVCO10nBZ3TPGgAXG6+Q From: "Mark R Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Bernie, I tried to follow Lancair's fuel system design as close as possible. Also, the kit included the Andair 6-way valve. It may not be very clear in the diagram, but the return fuel goes through the Andair valve and is routed to whichever tank you are drawing from at the time. So, it always returns fuel to the appropriate tank. =20 Where are your pumps located? I think that makes a big difference in whether or not a bleed circuit is needed. The closer to the tanks, the less the need for it. I had discovered a potentially fatal design flaw and found a simple remedy. With air in the lines, the efi pumps simply could not overcome the back pressure from the pressure regulator until they were well primed. The bleed circuit allows air to bleed off rapidly, then the pumps can build up pressure so the system operates normally. The .020 orifice doesn't pass enough fuel to even notice. Mark S. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of WALTER B KERR Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:54 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: fuel pump mounting ( fuel system architecture) On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:23:22 -0500 "Mark R Steitle" writes: > Jerry, > You forced me to do a sketch. So, here it is. =20 >=20 > Mark=20 >--------------------------------------- Mark, why do you choose not to return fuel to the tank instead of to the selector valve? I have been to 17000 feet in Fla on auto gas and when I landed the tanks feel very cool to hand and this is the fuel that the pump sees rather than the elevated temps coming back from the engine bay. I have run tanks dry above 10000 and the engine quickly fired off as soon as I switched tanks so returning fuel to the tank has passed any test I can think of. The fact that the system apparently boils someplace along the way during ground shutdown but quickly clears when the pump is turned on says that if I had a small orifice that it probably would take longer to bleed the vapor rather than returning it to a cooler tank. Bernie >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html