X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from server3.alwayswebhosting.com ([66.98.204.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTPS id 981557 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:25:48 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.98.204.64; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from bgp01386375bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.160.229]:33616 helo=quail) by server3.alwayswebhosting.com with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DdfO5-0006PC-GD for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:24:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:24:56 -0600 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [Fwd: COZY: Rotary risks] Message-Id: <20050601202456.53ae716f.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.4.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server3.alwayswebhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: I've got facts that might save your life. You guys are taking a lot of risks. I know what they are, but I'm too busy to tell you right now. Give me a break! Bob W. On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:31:30 -0500 Jerry Hey wrote: > I used to waste my time actually responding to stuff like this. It is > unfocused and really uninformed blather that adds nothing to the > knowledge pool. Jerry > > > On Wednesday, June 1, 2005, at 08:08 PM, wrote: > > > You guys are in trouble: > >> > >> From: al p wick > >> Date: 2005/06/01 Wed PM 05:53:06 EDT > >> To: Cozy_Builders@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: COZY: Rotary risks > >> > >> I'm part way thru measuring Rotary risks. Using Tracy's newsletters as > >> basis(what a neat guy). One thing is abundantly clear, it is a very > >> high > >> risk install. Substantially higher than the Lycoming. I know this is > >> going to upset a lot of people. I don't want to remain silent when I > >> have > >> facts that may save a life. > >> Each change you make to a system increases your risk. Tons of changes. > >> Marginal cooling of oil and water 6+ years later. Having to watch > >> something is a root cause of pilot oversight. > >> High shut down risk of his EFI system(too bad, as his EFI could be a > >> huge > >> risk reduction if designed differently). > >> Repeat root cause failures to design changes... the same pattern to > >> all > >> the failures. > >> > >> Doesn't mean don't use rotary, Perry had much lower risk as he didn't > >> modify all those systems. It means, if you go that route, you better > >> make > >> sure you use every skill you can muster to anticipate failures and > >> qualify each change while on the ground. > >> > >> I'll itemize the risk items in future, too many pans in fire right > >> now. I > >> also have to look at other info sources. > >> > >> Risk is not measured by how many moving components you have. That is > >> propaganda. As are terms like "hand grenade" and "melting aluminum". > >> It's > >> the total system that counts. > >> > >> Fire away! > >> > >> -al wick > >> Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru > >> 2.5 > >> N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon > >> Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design > >> info: > >> http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html > >> > >> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:13:16 -0700 "Keith N91KS" > >> writes: > >> The rotary guys are coming in much lighter and > >>> the reliability of those engines sounds like they have made great > >>> improvements. > >> > >> > >>> Keith > >>> Cozy N91KS > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Cozy_builders mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cozy_builders > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > >> Post: mailto:Cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net > >> > > > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (real soon)