X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 981260 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:03:02 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=171.71.176.71; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2005 15:02:17 -0700 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j51M1NmQ011150 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.21]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:01:41 -0400 Received: from [64.102.45.251] ([64.102.45.251]) by xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:01:41 -0400 Message-ID: <429E3045.4060705@nc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:01:41 -0400 From: Ernest Christley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Combining ports on 6-port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2005 22:01:41.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DC12DC0:01C566F5] Found the answer to the question I had the other day. On a 6-port, why not just combine the two runners in the side housing? From http://www.mazdatrix.com/faq/port6p.htm "If the separate ports (in the end housings) are simply made into one large port, the bottom and mid-range torque suffer a lot, and the port velocity is compromised as the intake flows from the manifold into the intake runner. The intake port timing of this configuration is: later on opening than a peripheral port, but roughly equal to intake closing on a peripheral port! That's a LOT of timing and port volume for a street car." Bottom and mid-range torque are all but meaningless to us as long as it'll idle. Right? The port velocity will only be compromised if you were using the stock intake that. I don't know of any airplane builders doing that. If you're building your own anyway, you'd make the runner big enough so there isn't an upstream obstruction and maintain the velocity throughout. It seems to me that joining the outside runners on a 6-port is an excellent idea for an airplane application. Somebody set me straight before I do something stupid. -- ,|"|"|, | ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta | o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org |