X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.133.169] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTPS id 942477 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 13 May 2005 08:13:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.133.169; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d220-236-29-226.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.236.29.226]) by mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j4DCCH0R014151 for ; Fri, 13 May 2005 22:12:18 +1000 Message-ID: <09d001c557b5$a08699c0$e21decdc@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Synthetic Oil and Leaded Gasoline. Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 22:16:43 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_09CD_01C55809.71E944B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_09CD_01C55809.71E944B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian, I use BP Course Plus in my Harley - have a read of the new BP range. = They are very good oils! The Course Plus is now 25W/60 ( up from 25W/50) and the specks exceed = the Harley requirements - notice recommended for large twins. Whereas the lighter oil 20W/50 ( I think ) is recommended for 4 stroke = motor bike engines - no friction modifier ( i.e. clutches). I use the Course Plus in all my vehicles and is readily available in = all regions in Australia - including country regions. George ( down under) There's an interesting article titled "Special Lubes for High-Revvers" = in the June issue of Kitplanes. This is part 2. guess I missed part 1. = I found their comments about using synthetics with 100LL to be in = agreement with the comments made on the Fly Rotary group just this week. =20 Mark S. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of WRJJRS@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:39 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Synthetic Oil and Leaded Gasoline. =20 In a message dated 5/10/2005 5:41:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, = ianddsl@magma.ca writes: Has anybody used a quality 4 stroke motorcylce oil? They tend to = provide good gear life performance as the transmission is often the sump. = They also resist foaming at very high RPM. -- Ian Ian,=20 When I worked for Kawasaki they tested tons of oils, a few stood out. = I don't even know if it is still available, but Keystone 20-50 petroleum = based was what they used on the wholesale level. This was a "standard" = oil that tested well, at a moderate cost. Omega vacuum refined petroleum = based "semi-synthetic" was a super high-end 20-50. (about 4-5 bucks a = quart 20 years ago) The winner was Redline synthetic multi-grade for = street or straight 40 or 50 wt. for racing. (remember synthetic 40 wt = pours more like 30 wt petro)=20 They did serious testing in the lab and running engines on the dyno. = One thing that synthetic did really well was gears. Don't forget that = most "modern"motorcycles lube the transmission with the engine oil. A = high film strength is needed there. Since we are lubing many of our = PSRU's with engine oil I believe a synthetic is a good crossover oil = that will work well in both. I like redline, but it's expensive in yank = dollars I can't imagine what it goes for, or if it's even available in = Oz. Motul is generally available worldwide but is also very expensive. I = think Mobile 1 is a good oil for the price. Run redline if you're flush = it's GREAT oil. If you have a separate gear reduction I would definitely = run Redline in the gearbox. They make a truly superior gear oil. Bill Jepson ------=_NextPart_000_09CD_01C55809.71E944B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Ian,
I use BP Course Plus in my Harley - = have a read=20 of the new BP range. They are very good oils!
The Course Plus is now 25W/60 ( up = from 25W/50)=20 and the specks exceed the Harley requirements - notice recommended for = large=20 twins.
Whereas the lighter oil 20W/50 ( I = think ) is=20 recommended for 4 stroke motor bike engines - no friction modifier ( = i.e.=20 clutches).
I use the Course Plus in all my = vehicles and is=20 readily available in all regions in Australia - including country=20 regions.
George ( down under)
 

There=92s = an=20 interesting article titled =93Special Lubes for High-Revvers=94 in the = June issue=20 of Kitplanes.  This is part 2=85 guess I missed part 1.  I = found their=20 comments about using synthetics with 100LL to be in agreement with the = comments made on the Fly Rotary group just this=20 week.

 

Mark=20 S.

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of WRJJRS@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 = 11:39=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Synthetic Oil=20 and Leaded Gasoline.

 

In a = message dated=20 5/10/2005 5:41:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, ianddsl@magma.ca=20 writes:

Has = anybody used a=20 quality 4 stroke motorcylce oil?  They tend to provide
good = gear=20 life performance as the transmission is often the sump.  They=20 also
resist foaming at very high RPM. --=20 Ian

Ian,=20

 When = I worked=20 for Kawasaki=20 they tested tons of oils, a few stood out. I don't even know if it is = still=20 available, but Keystone 20-50 petroleum based was what they used on = the=20 wholesale level. This was a "standard" oil that tested well, at a = moderate=20 cost. Omega vacuum refined petroleum based "semi-synthetic" was a = super=20 high-end 20-50. (about 4-5 bucks a quart 20 years ago) The winner was = Redline=20 synthetic multi-grade for street or straight 40 or 50 wt. for racing.=20 (remember synthetic 40 wt pours more like 30 wt petro)=20

 They = did=20 serious testing in the lab and running engines on the dyno. One thing = that=20 synthetic did really well was gears. Don't forget that most=20 "modern"motorcycles lube the transmission with the engine oil. A high = film=20 strength is needed there. Since we are lubing many of our PSRU's with = engine=20 oil I believe a synthetic is a good crossover oil that will work well = in both.=20 I like redline, but it's expensive in yank dollars I can't imagine = what it=20 goes for, or if it's even available in Oz. Motul is generally = available=20 worldwide but is also very expensive. I think Mobile 1 is a good oil for the = price. Run=20 redline if you're flush it's GREAT oil. If you have a separate gear = reduction=20 I would definitely run Redline in the gearbox. They make a truly = superior gear=20 oil.

Bill=20 = Jepson

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