X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [129.116.87.170] (HELO MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 942449 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 13 May 2005 06:52:25 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=129.116.87.170; envelope-from=mark.steitle@austin.utexas.edu X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C557A9.BD904172" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Soft Seals Sloppy slots S^4 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 05:51:39 -0500 Message-ID: <87DBA06C9A5CB84B80439BA09D86E69E6CB6B1@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <87DBA06C9A5CB84B80439BA09D86E69E6CB6B1@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu> Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Soft Seals Sloppy slots S^4 Thread-Index: AcVXPzJ13oWiACfUSqevq+jBOnni+QAabdfk From: "Mark R Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C557A9.BD904172 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George, I'm waiting to hear Tracy's opinion on the hardness testing. My rotors = were freshly ground for the 3mm seals, so the clearances are good. To = put my mind at rest, I suppose I'll have to check them (through the = exhaust ports) at regular intervals. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of George Lendich Sent: Thu 5/12/2005 5:12 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Soft Seals Sloppy slots S^4 =20 MessageMark, I am behind in my mail but feel had to respond. I have a feeling that the Hurley Seals are pretty good, as they are the = seal of choice by many local Aussie rebuilders - however may suffer = premature wear, in older rotors with worn apex seal grooves, where the = wear hasn't been recognised before rebuild, as in Ed's case. George( down under) Rusty, =20 Just to let you know where I'm coming from on this. First, I have 3mm = Hurley seals installed in my 20B, and don't relish the thought of = tearing it apart to change out the apex seals. (At the time I was = rebuilding my engine, Hurley seals were the seal of choice.) If they = actually are too soft, then I would like to know about it now, not after = they ruin my day. The comment was made that Hurley seals are so soft = that they are wearing out pre-maturely. It would be a good yardstick to = have the numbers on the stock Mazda seals as well to use as a reference = point to know how the Hurley seals compare. =20 Mark =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Russell Duffy Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:30 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Soft Seals Sloppy slots S^4 =20 Rusty, Mark I have access to the equipment to perform a Rockwell Hardness test. = If you want you can send the old seals to me and I could have the test = run the day after I receive them. Let me know . =20 Hi Bob, =20 If Ed wants to send a piece of his broken seal, I'm certainly game to = send one of my seals also. I'm not really sure what we'll prove by = this, other than finding out if Ed's seal was sub-Hurley-standard = hardness. We don't know what hardness is required, or desired, so = having a figure for the standard Hurley wouldn't seem to serve any = purpose to me. =20 =20 BTW Ed, I would absolutely not install those odd plugs until you get = home. It certainly sounds like they weren't hitting anything, but do = you know that the ground electrode wasn't glowing red, and causing = pre-ignition, or causing some other odd problem that we don't = understand? Even if you don't believe those plugs will cause any = problems at all, why take even a slight chance until you get home and = can circle your own field for testing? =20 Rusty =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C557A9.BD904172 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IigKAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAMQAAAFJFOiBbRmx5Um90YXJ5XSBS ZTogU29mdCBTZWFscyBTbG9wcHkgc2xvdHMgIFNeNABbEAEFgAMADgAAANUHBQANAAUAMwAnAAUA UgEBIIADAA4AAADVBwUADQAFADMAJwAFAFIBAQmAAQAhAAAAMUMyNTU3NDNEQUQ5NjQ0NkIzNUUx NDU1M0MwNzBDQjgADAcBA5AGAMQOAAA4AAAAAwAmAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQByQZC9qVfFAR4A PQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAAgFHAAEAAAAvAAAAYz11czthPSA7cD1BVVNUSU47bD1NQUlMMDEt MDUwNTEzMTA1MTM5Wi0zOTE0MAAAHgBJAAEAAAAtAAAAW0ZseVJvdGFyeV0gUmU6IFNvZnQgU2Vh bHMgU2xvcHB5IHNsb3RzICBTXjQAAAAAQABOAACbKbA/V8UBHgBaAAEAAAAaAAAAUm90YXJ5IG1v 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