X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 935808 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 May 2005 11:13:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.131.116; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: from 204.127.135.75 ([204.127.135.75]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2005050715132911200a8v3le>; Sat, 7 May 2005 15:13:29 +0000 Received: from [209.247.222.101] by 204.127.135.75; Sat, 07 May 2005 15:13:28 +0000 From: keltro@att.net (Kelly Troyer) To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: Can't get engine to fire off! "HELP" Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 15:13:28 +0000 Message-Id: <050720051513.2668.427CDB180004AAA800000A6C2160466648019D9B040A05@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Feb 14 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2668_1115478808_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2668_1115478808_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bernie, Along the same line as Charlie could it be that your injectors are leaking down and flooding the engine between runs ?? Hi mileage RX7's are famous for that.......Some of our rotorheads use a bypass system to bleed off residual fuel pressure on shutdown while others turn fuel pumps off to kill engine on shutdown.......On the other hand I seem to recall that you replaced your injectors recently.........Were they new or rebuilt ?? If rebuilt (misnomer,they are not rebuilt only cleaned and flowed susposedly).......I am very wary of most "Rebuilt auto Parts" with injectors high on my list to avoid !! Hope you find the problem..FWIW Kelly Troyer Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2 -------------- Original message from Charlie England : -------------- > WALTER B KERR wrote: > > >Ed A wrote: > > > >Bernie, can you confirm you have both spark and fuel and it doesn't run? > > > >Any pops? indication it is trying to run? Don't have an EM2 so can't > >help > >you with the 0 and NOP - but sounds like something is not right - but, > >wouldn't think the EM2 problem would preclude it from starting. Would > >like > >to see you at Lumberton - going to be lonesome. > > > >----------------------------- > > > >Not yet will do that this morning when I get back from 8:30 mens > >breakfast at church. > > > >Bernie > > > > I don't play an EE on tv, but I do play a troubleshooter in real life. > One of the best pieces of advice came from the doctor on He Haw: 'If it > hurts when you do that, Don't Do That!' > > First, try undoing the stuff you changed. If that doesn't cure it, go > over every place you had your hands, elbows, etc while making the > changes looking for stuff that might be pulled loose. > > We had multiple problems at work the other day; 5 or 6 systems developed > problems & couldn't communicate in some functions but could in other > functions. We checked a communications closet where a contractor had > been working & found a single connector on a network bridge partially > unplugged. > > If it makes you feel any better, there were only 2 people in an > organization numbering around 800,000 people that knew where that bridge > box was located. > > 2nd thought: > Any chance you have completely lost compression? In the cars it's stuck > seals but if it was flooded at any point there might not be any oil on > the apex seals. The standard fix on cars is transmission fluid in the > spark plug holes. I think Lynn talks about hot coffee in the carb.(?) > Anyway, the ATF will produce enough compression to allow the engine to > fire off. > > Charlie --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2668_1115478808_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Bernie,

Along the same line as Charlie could it be that your injectors are leaking

down and flooding the engine between runs ?? Hi mileage RX7's are famous

for that.......Some of our rotorheads use a bypass system to bleed off residual

fuel pressure on shutdown while others turn fuel pumps off to kill engine on

shutdown.......On the other hand I seem to recall that you replaced your injectors

recently.........Were they new or rebuilt ?? If rebuilt (misnomer,they are not rebuilt

only cleaned and flowed susposedly).......I am very wary of most "Rebuilt auto

Parts" with injectors high on my list to avoid !! Hope you find the problem..FWIW

Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2

-------------- Original message from Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>: --------------

> WALTER B KERR wrote:
>
> >Ed A wrote:
> >
> >Bernie, can you confirm you have both spark and fuel and it doesn't run?
> >
> >Any pops? indication it is trying to run? Don't have an EM2 so can't
> >help
> >you with the 0 and NOP - but sounds like something is not right - but,
> >wouldn't think the EM2 problem would preclude it from starting. Would
> >like
> >to see you at Lumberton - going to be lonesome.
> >
> >-----------------------------
> >
> >Not yet will do that this morning when I get back from 8:30 mens
> >breakfast at church.
> >
> >Bernie
> >
>
> I don't play an EE on tv, but I do play a troubleshooter in real life.
> One of the best pieces of advice came from the doctor on He Haw: 'If it
> hurts when you do that, Don't Do That!'
>
> First, try undoing the stuff you changed. If that doesn't cure it, go
> over every place you had your hands, elbows, etc while making the
> changes looking for stuff that might be pulled loose.
>
> We had multiple problems at work the other day; 5 or 6 systems developed
> problems & couldn't communicate in some functions but could in other
> functions. We checked a communications closet where a contractor had
> been working & found a single connector on a network bridge partially
> unplugged.
>
> If it makes you feel any better, there were only 2 people in an
> organization numbering around 800,000 people that knew where that bridge
> box was located.
>
> 2nd thought:
> Any chance you have completely lost compression? In the cars it's stuck
> seals but if it was flooded at any point there might not be any oil on
> the apex seals. The standard fix on cars is transmission fluid in the
> spark plug holes. I think Lynn talks about hot coffee in the carb.(?)
> Anyway, the ATF will produce enough compression to allow the engine to
> fire off.
>
> Charlie

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