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X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: <13brv3@bellsouth.net> Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.73] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 935732 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 May 2005 09:36:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.73; envelope-from=13brv3@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm71aec.bellsouth.net ([65.6.194.9]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050507133530.YKH2545.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm71aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:35:30 -0400 Received: from rd ([65.6.194.9]) by ibm71aec.bellsouth.net (InterMail vG.1.02.00.01 201-2136-104-101-20040929) with ESMTP id <20050507133529.LYSR1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@rd> for ; Sat, 7 May 2005 09:35:29 -0400 From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Can't get engine to fire off! "HELP" Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 08:35:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c55309$b052e1c0$6101a8c0@rd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C552DF.C77CD9C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C552DF.C77CD9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I tried to start the engine late yesterday on a freshly charged battery, no fire in hole, tried starting fluid because engine has set = for a week and had to do this at LAL after a week at SNF. Engine will go back = to Bruce probably in July to fiqure out why there is only 75 psi cranking compression. While cranking, the rpm display on the EM2 was constantly flashing 0 and NOP! Anyone have a hint what that is trying to tell me?? Mornin Bernie, =20 First, congrats on getting your medical back. (old guy joke deleted ) =20 NOP means not operating or something to that effect. I "think" it = always says that until the engine cranks. =20 =20 -As Ed asked, did you get any sign of fire even with the starting fluid? = If not, that should rule out any fuel pump issues. =20 =20 -Are the results the same if you try controller B? =20 -Are you sure you don't have the injector disable switches off? I've = done that to myself a couple times. Still, you would think starting fluid = would fire, though the engine wouldn't keep running. It's possible that the = EC-2 is smart enough to know that you have both injector sets off, so it = wouldn't bother trying to fire the plugs either.=20 =20 -If you're getting any firing, the coils are probably OK. If not, then = you might want to check to make sure they have power. =20 =20 -Also if no firing, make sure the EC-2 has power. For heaven sakes, if = it blew a fuse, don't admit it :-) If it's not handy to get a meter on = the EC-2 circuit, you could also use the EM-2 to read the MAP table on the = EC-2. If it can read it, then the EC-2 has power. =20 Good luck! =20 Rusty=20 =20 PS- I nominate Ed as the Tracy substitute :-) =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C552DF.C77CD9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

When I tried to start the engine late yesterday on a = freshly=20 charged battery, no fire in hole, tried starting fluid because engine = has set=20 for a week and had to do this at LAL after a week at SNF. Engine will go = back to=20 Bruce probably in July to fiqure out why there is only 75 psi cranking=20 compression. While cranking, the rpm display on the EM2 was constantly = flashing=20 0 and NOP! Anyone have a hint what that is trying to tell = me??

Mornin=20 Bernie,

First, = congrats on=20 getting your medical back. (old guy joke deleted=20 <g>)

NOP = means not operating=20 or something to that effect. I "think" it always says that until = the=20 engine cranks.

-As Ed = asked, did you=20 get any sign of fire even with the starting fluid? If not, that = should=20 rule out any fuel pump issues.

-Are the results the same if you = try=20 controller B?

-Are you sure you don't have the = injector=20 disable switches off? I've done that to myself a couple = times. =20 Still, you would think starting fluid would fire, though the engine = wouldn't=20 keep running. It's possible that the EC-2 is smart enough to know = that you=20 have both injector sets off, so it wouldn't bother trying to fire the = plugs=20 either.

-If you're getting any firing, = the coils are=20 probably OK. If not, then you might want to check to make sure = they have=20 power.

-Also if no firing, make sure = the EC-2 has=20 power. For heaven sakes, if it blew a fuse, don't admit it = :-) =20 If it's not handy to get a meter on the EC-2 circuit, you could also use = the=20 EM-2 to read the MAP table on the EC-2. If it can read it, then = the EC-2=20 has power.

Good luck!

Rusty

PS- I nominate Ed as the Tracy = substitute=20 :-)

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