X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [199.185.220.220] (HELO priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 934853 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 May 2005 13:29:54 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=199.185.220.220; envelope-from=echolakeresort@telus.net Received: from boucher-oddle24 ([207.194.26.173]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050506172906.RTPX4564.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@boucher-oddle24> for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:29:06 -0600 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.11.5]); Fri, 06 May 2005 10:29:03 -0700 Message-Id: <427BA95C.000021.02580@BOUCHER-ODDLE24> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:29:00 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail (3001609) From: "Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)" References: To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Emailing: Possies & CAS 007, Possies & CAS 008, Possies & CAS 009 X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-427BA95F2D37=======" --=======AVGMAIL-427BA95F2D37======= Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_CKW2A0V2QL8000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_CKW2A0V2QL8000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed =0D Of course you are correct due to the single drive (as usual).failure of t= hat drive would need some major internal problem. The shaft turn freely supported by 2 ball bearings with no load on it,so the odds are in my fav= or. In my opinion its still better than only one. For the space between the drive & flex plate, I'm looking at adapting an outboard alternator & at t= he rear a Glimmer belt drive for the alternator, water & dry sump pump drive (separate belts for the DS)=0D Georges B.=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Rotary motors in aircraft=0D Date: 05/06/05 10:09:14=0D To: Rotary motors in aircraft=0D Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Emailing: Possies & CAS 007, Possies & CAS 008, Possies & CAS 009=0D =0D Very Interesting approach, Georges.=0D =0D Simpler than trying to adapt the twin distributor 12A front mount. Howev= er, with both on the same shaft not certain you have true redundancy - in my opinion the shaft is more likely to fail than the simply electrical circu= it used to sense the rotation. For true redundancy, I would think you would want to put a flywheel/pulley angle sensor - probably flywheel end where = a flopping belt wouldn't tear it out.=0D =0D Ed=0D =0D ----- Original Message ----- =0D From: Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher) =0D To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0D Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 PM=0D Subject: [FlyRotary] Emailing: Possies & CAS 007, Possies & CAS 008, Poss= ies & CAS 009=0D =0D =0D Group=0D I gave up on the 12a front cover to have igniter redundancy.The first pho= to is the semi completed unit (need to install upper shaft). Second is the adaptor & 3rd (out of focus)is the upper shaft with the center drilled ou= t for the mounting bolt. The shaft has a ball bearing for support at the to= p (great support) the bearing retainer is left out as the upper shaft locat= es the bearing . A star washer between the two shaft will lock the two toget= her (note: machining accuracy is very important)=0D The amount of space required shouldn't be a problem on any installation=0D Georges B.=0D =0D Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D No virus found in this outgoing message.=0D Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.=0D Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=0D >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_CKW2A0V2QL8000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Ed
Of course you are correct due to the single drive (as usual).failure= of that drive would need some major internal problem. The shaft tur= n freely supported by 2 ball bearings with no load on it,so the odds are = in my favor. In my opinion its still better than only one. For the space = between the drive & flex plate, I'm looking at adapting an outbo= ard alternator & at the rear a Glimmer belt drive for the alternator,= water & dry sump pump drive (separate belts for the DS)
Georges B.
 
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Date: 05/06/05 10:= 09:14
Subject: [FlyRotar= y] Re: Emailing: Possies & CAS 007, Possies & CAS 008, Possies &a= mp; CAS 009
 
Very Interesting approach, Georges.
 
Simpler than trying to adapt the twin distributor 12A= front mount.  However, with both on the same shaft not certain you = have true redundancy - in my opinion the shaft is more likely to fail tha= n the simply electrical circuit used to sense the rotation.  For tru= e redundancy, I would think you would want to put a flywheel/pulley angle= sensor - probably flywheel end where a flopping belt wouldn't tear it ou= t.
 
Ed
 
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 P= M
Subject: [FlyRotary] Emailing: Pos= sies & CAS 007, Possies & CAS 008, Possies & CAS 009

Group
I gave up on the 12a front cover to have igniter redundancy.The firs= t photo is the semi completed unit (need to install upper shaft). Second = is the adaptor & 3rd (out of focus)is the upper shaft with the center= drilled out for the mounting bolt. The shaft has a ball bearing for supp= ort at the top (great support) the bearing retainer is left out as the up= per shaft locates the bearing . A star washer between the two shaft will = lock the two together.(note: machining accuracy is very important)
The amount of space required shouldn't be a problem on any installat= ion
Georges B.
 
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