X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao01.cox.net ([68.230.241.38] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 922387 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 12:03:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.38; envelope-from=dale.r@cox.net Received: from smtp.west.cox.net ([172.18.180.56]) by fed1rmmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with SMTP id <20050502160229.KIAB7629.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:02:29 -0400 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.15 (webedge20-101-1103-20040528) From: Dale Rogers To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: finally changed to fuses vs circuit breakers Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 12:02:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050502160229.KIAB7629.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> Rusty, I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to change the subject line (it was only six messages from being me.) You've been working field service long enough to know that fuses go bad, too. They de-solder; they break due to vibration; the ends corrode and lose connectivity. Bob Nuckols takes the position that no flight-critical system should have circuit protection as a single point of failure. And fuse systems are cheaper than breakers. I agree, however, with those whose military experience shows the value of breakers. I'm planning on a mixed system with resettable breakers for flight-essential systems, fuses for the rest. I'm further leaning toward the small amount of extra weight that would result from having redundant paths for the most essential circuits, such as the engine control. That would be two B+ leads one through a breaker, one through a slow-blo fuse; if the breaker pops due to a surge the fuse might not; if both blow, I know it was an overload; if only one fails, I'm the energizer bunny. Dale R. COZY MkIV-R13B #1254 Ch's 4, 5, 16, & 23 in-progress > From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> > Date: 2005/05/02 Mon AM 08:37:55 EDT > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: finally changed to fuses vs circuit breakers > was Re: Ed's new rotor housings > > if the CB doesn't reset I haven't lost anything over a fuse, BUT if it does > reset - it may save my butt or the aircraft. > > Hey Ed, how about if the CB trips because the circuit breaker IS the > problem? The only tripped breaker I've seen in a certified plane turned out > to be a bad CB. I've also seen bad CB's at home, and at work. Why add > another device that can fail? > > Rusty (just couldn't resist resist)