X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.165] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 921866 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 02 May 2005 00:15:27 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.165; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.73]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B603837010C for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.165]) by filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.73]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12842-06-67 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (70-97-232-85.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [70.97.232.85]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E823700F2 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 04:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4275A92C.9030302@frontiernet.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 23:14:36 -0500 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's new rotor housings References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0517-6, 04/30/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Because that would be pointless, heavy and expensive. A CB rated just above the requirement of the component will blow on transients and the like and protect the [delicate] component. That's something you can reset. I'm selecting a fuse that will not blow until the [flight critical] component is toast (has been drawing maybe twice what it's rated to do). It's purpose is to prevent the wire to the component from melting down and damaging other nearby components. Avionics and the like might be another matter ... Jim S. Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher) wrote: > Jim > Then why nnot use a HEAVY CB, it would give you the option to reset? > Georges B. > > /-------Original Message-------/ > > /*From:*/ Rotary motors in aircraft > /*Date:*/ 05/01/05 20:47:32 > /*To:*/ Rotary motors in aircraft > /*Subject:*/ [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's new rotor housings > > I'm not convinced of the utility of Circuit Breakers for flight > critical systems. I would put each of my fuel pumps, the EFIs and > what have you on dedicated circuits, each protected with a HEAVY > fuse. My objective is not to protect my fuel pump in case of a > surge. It's a flight critical component, so I'm going to allow it to > go while it can. The fuse is waaaay heavier than the pump (or > whatever) draws, and is meant to protect the wire going to the > mechanism rather than the mechanism itself. I do not regard fuel > pumps as delicate items, so I don't intend to protect them from > transient surges and the like. I will ride it 'till it drops, and the > fuse will blow shortly before the wire melts. > > Delicate avionics I might very well protect with CBs. These might > need to be protected from transient surges/voltage spikes (from whence > I cannot say since I have OV protection on my alternator) and the like. > > Heavy duty, robust components like fuel pumps need no such coddling > IMO .... Jim S. > > > WALTER B KERR wrote: > John Slade wrote: > > My understanding is that the pumps, at least the ones I'm using (or at > least WAS using when I used to be able to fly this #@#$ing > thing, long ago), are designed to run continuously. I > have one Walbro Inline fuel pump-GSL393 (from Tracy) and one Walbro > Inline fuel pump-GSL394 from Lightning Motorsports. Both have metal > screw in connectors which fit AN adapters. They're fused at 20 amps. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > OK, I'll stir the pot some more. I am not an electrical engineer, but > I do understand the power of redunancy! > > I will take two separately fused circuits over 1 circuit breaker every > day of the week. If there is a short in my one device or in the power > supply lines, I do not wish to be starting a fire by resetting circuit > breakers while looking for a glider port. I know there are rotary > powered airplanes out there that depend on one circuit breaker for the > entire electrical engine power source that have many, many more hours > of rotary time than me, but I sleep better have two parallel circuits > bringing electrical power to my fused engine buss and then reduntant > pumps on entirely separate fused circuits. My pumps are both checked > during run up and both on during T/O and landing. > > Bernie > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>>