X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 921802 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 22:37:11 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.70; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [209.214.146.74] by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050502023620.NTKQ2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[209.214.146.74]> for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 22:36:20 -0400 Message-ID: <42759222.4050605@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 21:36:18 -0500 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Inserts References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rijakits wrote: > snipped > >Charlie, > >I suggest you look also into exhaust augmentation. >If you are already "skunk working" on something new and exhaust related, you >might as well reap the benefits from that. It should help with cooling >(pulls air through the radiators/oil cooler), it would provide some kind of >fairing (streamlines the cooling exit, exhaust exit and might hide any >muffler), it also should muffle the exhaust noise (might get away with out >any muffler...). As the augmentation implies a mixing with cooler (...than >exhaust) air this should muffle the noise as well. If it does not mix, it >will at least suround the hot exhaust gases with a mantle of cooler air - >muffling again. It should also increase efficiency as you have the exhaust >gases do some work - should also work for a turbo (double duty!) >Last but not least benefit: Depending on the exhaust routing ( how early in >the duct you can introduce the exhaust pipe into the cooling duct), the >cooler air in the duct will isolate the exhaust heat from the rest of the >engine compartement. > >Just a little info from this site: http://bd-4.org/cooling_nicoson.html >Dan Nicoson is planning a V8 installation with exhaust augmentation, so it >is also liquid cooled and a lot of heat to be removed....... > >Anyway, I hope between all on this list the maximum power, lightest weight, >most reliable system is found some time, so I can shamelessly copy the >perfect setup!! - ...sometime when I get to build:)) > >Cheers, >Thomas Jakits > Thanks for the link; it's good reading. I've thought a lot about exhaust augmentation. The 2 downsides I've heard (2nd hand info only) is that they can actually increase drag at high speeds & that they usually *increase* noise levels. The 2nd is not too hard to understand & pilot opinions about certified planes using the technique seem universal that they are louder than similar designs w/o augmentation. The 1st is a little harder to understand. Maybe the augmenters draw too much air through the system. Are you considering a BD-4? I owned one for about a year, between two RV-4's. Charlie