X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 921770 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:53:42 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-189-178.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.189.178]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j421qr0W015971 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 21:52:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000f01c54eb9$a80fc810$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Home again, home again! Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 21:52:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C54E98.20C73990" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C54E98.20C73990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill, If you look at the photo you will see my rear mounting bar (white) = that goes across the top of the rear (front in the car) of the engine. = I used the air-conditioning/powersteering holes in the front IRON side = housing to mount it to the engine. I then wrap the straps (I used to = use chains but straps are better - I use two) in-between the mounting = bar and the block - there are two passages. I then hook the other end = around the end of the redrive being careful not to crush the AN fittings = for the oil drain. I presume you could hook it on to the e shaft = pulley - but having two straps sort of on each side of the rear of the = engine (under the bar) provides some stability that might be lacking = with just a strap around the E shaft pulley. But the adjustable "balance" beam is really what takes the work out of = it. You can precisely get the angle you want the engine at or shift if = necessary. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: William=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home again, home again! Good to hear that you made it okay, On your balance beam, where does it grab the engine? On the e-shaft = pulley and the redrive? Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 3:58 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home again, home again! The answer is in this photo, Barny. At least part of it is. I have = a collapsible lift that is really a life saver (back too), I can lift = the engine out and in the mounts with little problem. Takes me about 5 = minutes or less (once I have spent several hours disconnecting = everything and taking the oil pan off. I lift the engine off the aircraft, roll the lifts two long = stabilizing feet under the van. Prop the rear hatch with a long = push-broom handle and then put the engine in back of the passengers = seat, then pull out the feet from the lift, load the lift, feet, etc. in = the van along with the engine and take off. =20 Works well, if you have the "balance" beam you can see hanging in = the photo - just turn the handle until you have the attitude you want = from the load and push it into place. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Barnhart=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 4:37 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home again, home again! Ed,=20 Good to hear your back "home". How did you put the engine on the = plane from the back of a van? Barny=20 MGDQ 20bt (removing engine and engine mount to take care of some = Murphy tail related problems) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Home again, home again! Wife, drove me and my flight gear to aircraft getting there = around 1100. By time finished loading, reinstalling the avionics - the = @$#%^ transponder wouldn't slide all the way back in an engage the pins = it was 1130 and the wind was picking up. - I figured I'd stay low = enough and out of class B airspace anyway. =20 I told her that she could pick me up back at the home airport in = NC if I didn't have any problem - she said I wouldn't have any problem. = Curious, I asked how did she know I wouldn't have any problem - = "Headwind" she said. Women, got to love em. Cranked up the engine and let oil and coolant temp rise to 120F = and taxied to runup at end or runway. Everything looking good, I = restricted takeoff rpm to 5400 (6000 ft long runway), still accelerated = rapidly and lifted off. Kept it low until hitting 140 mph hoping to = maintain good cooling. However, coolant temp rose to 220F during the = circuits of the airport as I slowly climbed. I pulled the power back to = 4500 rpm and the temps stabilized at 210F. Oil temp was around 185F. = Normally coolant is in syn with the oil or perhaps 5F higher. After = flying for approx 20 minutes coolant temps were at 200F, so slowly = coming down. This is pretty much what Tracy reported when first flying with = the Renesis engine - tight engine, more power, more heat. So it appears = that this engine is much tighter. I can now maintain level flight = burning 4 gph when it used to take 5.5 gph. Can't wait until its broken = in a bit more to see what the top end is. Overhaul kit from Real World = Solutions and parts from Bruce T appear to have come together in a tight = nit engine. But, it does appear the small cooling inlets (which I had = planned to open up a bit) are too small for the new HP being produced = (are you listening, AL {:>)?. Also, several people mentioned after I = arrived back at GooseCreek that the exhaust was deeper and louder. = Even my wife mentioned it no longer had that "whinny" sound. So thanks for all the well wishes from everyone, advice, and = engineering consultation on the cause. I have mailed seals to Tracy and = Bob Perkinson, so that should provide some "harder" data on the status = of the seals. Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C54E98.20C73990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill, If you look at the photo you will = see my rear=20 mounting bar (white) that goes across the top of the rear (front in the = car) of=20 the engine.  I used the air-conditioning/powersteering holes in the = front=20 IRON side housing to mount it to the engine.  I then wrap the = straps (I=20 used to use chains but straps are better - I use two) in-between the = mounting=20 bar and the block - there are two passages.  I then hook the other = end=20 around the end of the redrive being careful not to crush the AN fittings = for the=20 oil drain.   I presume you could hook it on to the e shaft = pulley -=20 but having two straps sort of on each side of the rear of the engine = (under the=20 bar) provides some stability that might be lacking with just a strap = around the=20 E shaft pulley.
 
But the adjustable  "balance" beam = is really=20 what takes the work out of it.  You can precisely get the angle you = want=20 the engine at or shift if necessary.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 William=20
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 9:29 = PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home = again, home=20 again!

Good to hear that you made it = okay,
 
On your balance beam, where does it = grab the=20 engine? On the e-shaft pulley and the redrive?
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed Anderson
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 = 3:58=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home = again,=20 home again!

The answer is in this photo, = Barny.  At=20 least part of it is.  I have a collapsible lift that is really = a life=20 saver (back too),  I can lift the engine out and in the mounts = with=20 little problem.  Takes me about 5 minutes or less (once I have = spent=20 several hours disconnecting everything and taking the oil pan=20 off.
 
I lift the engine off the aircraft, = roll the=20 lifts two long stabilizing feet under the van.  Prop the rear = hatch=20 with a long push-broom handle and then put the engine in back of the = passengers seat, then pull out the feet from the lift, load the = lift, feet,=20 etc. in the van along with the engine and take off.  =
 
Works well, if you have the = "balance" beam you=20 can see hanging in the photo - just turn the handle until you have = the=20 attitude you want from the load and push it into place.
 
Ed
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Barnhart
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 = 4:37=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Home again,=20 home again!

Ed,
 
Good to hear your back = "home".  How did=20 you put the engine on the plane from the back of a = van?
 
Barny
MGDQ 20bt (removing engine and = engine mount=20 to take care of some Murphy tail related problems)
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Ed Anderson
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, May 01, = 2005 12:41=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Home = again,=20 home again!

Wife, drove me and my flight = gear to=20 aircraft getting there around 1100.  By time finished = loading,=20 reinstalling the avionics - the @$#%^ transponder wouldn't slide = all the=20 way back in an engage the pins it was 1130 and the wind was = picking=20 up.  - I figured I'd stay low enough and out of class = B=20 airspace anyway. 
 
I told her that she could pick = me up back=20 at the home airport in NC if I didn't have any problem - she = said I=20 wouldn't have any problem.  Curious, I asked how did she = know I=20 wouldn't have any problem - "Headwind" she said.  Women, = got to=20 love em.
 
Cranked up the engine and let = oil and=20 coolant temp rise to 120F and taxied to runup at end or = runway. =20 Everything looking good, I restricted takeoff rpm to 5400 (6000 = ft long=20 runway), still accelerated rapidly and lifted off.  Kept it = low=20 until hitting 140 mph hoping to maintain good cooling.  = However,=20 coolant temp rose to 220F during the circuits of the airport as = I slowly=20 climbed.  I pulled the power back to 4500 rpm and the temps = stabilized at 210F.  Oil temp was around 185F.  = Normally=20 coolant is in syn with the oil or perhaps 5F higher.  After = flying=20 for approx 20 minutes coolant temps were at 200F, so slowly = coming=20 down.
 
This is pretty much what Tracy = reported=20 when first flying with the Renesis engine - tight engine, more = power,=20 more heat.  So it appears that this engine is much = tighter.  I=20 can now maintain level flight burning 4 gph when it used to take = 5.5=20 gph.  Can't wait until its broken in a bit more to see what = the top=20 end is.  Overhaul kit from Real World Solutions and parts = from=20 Bruce T appear to have come together in a tight nit = engine.
 
But, it does appear the  = small cooling=20 inlets (which I had planned to open up a bit) are too small for = the new=20 HP being produced (are you listening, AL {:>)?. Also, = several=20 people mentioned after I arrived back at GooseCreek that the = exhaust=20 was  deeper and louder.  Even=20 my wife mentioned it no longer had that "whinny" = sound.
 
So thanks for all the well = wishes from=20 everyone, advice, and engineering consultation on the = cause.  I=20 have mailed seals to Tracy and Bob Perkinson, so that should = provide=20 some "harder" data on the status of the seals.
 
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW = Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
 
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