X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [216.52.245.18] (HELO ispwestemail2.mdeinc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 921763 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 21:30:23 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.52.245.18; envelope-from=wschertz@ispwest.com Received: from 7n7z201 (unverified [63.13.186.38]) by ispwestemail2.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.1.361.0) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 18:29:23 -0700 Message-ID: <005801c54eb6$5ba4d270$6401a8c0@7n7z201> From: "William" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Home again, home again! Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:29:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01C54E8C.725DB920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C54E8C.725DB920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good to hear that you made it okay, On your balance beam, where does it grab the engine? On the e-shaft = pulley and the redrive? Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 3:58 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home again, home again! The answer is in this photo, Barny. At least part of it is. I have a = collapsible lift that is really a life saver (back too), I can lift the = engine out and in the mounts with little problem. Takes me about 5 = minutes or less (once I have spent several hours disconnecting = everything and taking the oil pan off. I lift the engine off the aircraft, roll the lifts two long = stabilizing feet under the van. Prop the rear hatch with a long = push-broom handle and then put the engine in back of the passengers = seat, then pull out the feet from the lift, load the lift, feet, etc. in = the van along with the engine and take off. =20 Works well, if you have the "balance" beam you can see hanging in the = photo - just turn the handle until you have the attitude you want from = the load and push it into place. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Barnhart=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 4:37 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home again, home again! Ed,=20 Good to hear your back "home". How did you put the engine on the = plane from the back of a van? Barny=20 MGDQ 20bt (removing engine and engine mount to take care of some = Murphy tail related problems) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Home again, home again! Wife, drove me and my flight gear to aircraft getting there around = 1100. By time finished loading, reinstalling the avionics - the @$#%^ = transponder wouldn't slide all the way back in an engage the pins it was = 1130 and the wind was picking up. - I figured I'd stay low enough and = out of class B airspace anyway. =20 I told her that she could pick me up back at the home airport in = NC if I didn't have any problem - she said I wouldn't have any problem. = Curious, I asked how did she know I wouldn't have any problem - = "Headwind" she said. Women, got to love em. Cranked up the engine and let oil and coolant temp rise to 120F = and taxied to runup at end or runway. Everything looking good, I = restricted takeoff rpm to 5400 (6000 ft long runway), still accelerated = rapidly and lifted off. Kept it low until hitting 140 mph hoping to = maintain good cooling. However, coolant temp rose to 220F during the = circuits of the airport as I slowly climbed. I pulled the power back to = 4500 rpm and the temps stabilized at 210F. Oil temp was around 185F. = Normally coolant is in syn with the oil or perhaps 5F higher. After = flying for approx 20 minutes coolant temps were at 200F, so slowly = coming down. This is pretty much what Tracy reported when first flying with the = Renesis engine - tight engine, more power, more heat. So it appears = that this engine is much tighter. I can now maintain level flight = burning 4 gph when it used to take 5.5 gph. Can't wait until its broken = in a bit more to see what the top end is. Overhaul kit from Real World = Solutions and parts from Bruce T appear to have come together in a tight = nit engine. But, it does appear the small cooling inlets (which I had planned = to open up a bit) are too small for the new HP being produced (are you = listening, AL {:>)?. Also, several people mentioned after I arrived back = at GooseCreek that the exhaust was deeper and louder. Even my wife = mentioned it no longer had that "whinny" sound. So thanks for all the well wishes from everyone, advice, and = engineering consultation on the cause. I have mailed seals to Tracy and = Bob Perkinson, so that should provide some "harder" data on the status = of the seals. Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C54E8C.725DB920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good to hear that you made it = okay,
 
On your balance beam, where does it = grab the=20 engine? On the e-shaft pulley and the redrive?
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 3:58 = PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home = again, home=20 again!

The answer is in this photo, = Barny.  At=20 least part of it is.  I have a collapsible lift that is really a = life=20 saver (back too),  I can lift the engine out and in the mounts = with=20 little problem.  Takes me about 5 minutes or less (once I have = spent=20 several hours disconnecting everything and taking the oil pan=20 off.
 
I lift the engine off the aircraft, = roll the=20 lifts two long stabilizing feet under the van.  Prop the rear = hatch with=20 a long push-broom handle and then put the engine in back of the = passengers=20 seat, then pull out the feet from the lift, load the lift, feet, etc. = in the=20 van along with the engine and take off. 
 
Works well, if you have the "balance" = beam you=20 can see hanging in the photo - just turn the handle until you have the = attitude you want from the load and push it into place.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Barnhart
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 = 4:37=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home = again,=20 home again!

Ed,
 
Good to hear your back = "home".  How did=20 you put the engine on the plane from the back of a van?
 
Barny
MGDQ 20bt (removing engine and = engine mount to=20 take care of some Murphy tail related problems)
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Ed Anderson
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 = 12:41=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Home = again, home=20 again!

Wife, drove me and my flight gear = to aircraft=20 getting there around 1100.  By time finished loading, = reinstalling=20 the avionics - the @$#%^ transponder wouldn't slide all the way = back in an=20 engage the pins it was 1130 and the wind was picking up.  = - I=20 figured I'd stay low enough and out of class B airspace = anyway. =20
 
I told her that she could pick me = up back at=20 the home airport in NC if I didn't have any problem - she said I = wouldn't=20 have any problem.  Curious, I asked how did she know I = wouldn't have=20 any problem - "Headwind" she said.  Women, got to love=20 em.
 
Cranked up the engine and let oil = and coolant=20 temp rise to 120F and taxied to runup at end or runway.  = Everything=20 looking good, I restricted takeoff rpm to 5400 (6000 ft long = runway),=20 still accelerated rapidly and lifted off.  Kept it low until = hitting=20 140 mph hoping to maintain good cooling.  However, coolant = temp rose=20 to 220F during the circuits of the airport as I slowly = climbed.  I=20 pulled the power back to 4500 rpm and the temps stabilized at = 210F. =20 Oil temp was around 185F.  Normally coolant is in syn with = the oil or=20 perhaps 5F higher.  After flying for approx 20 minutes = coolant temps=20 were at 200F, so slowly coming down.
 
This is pretty much what Tracy = reported when=20 first flying with the Renesis engine - tight engine, more power, = more=20 heat.  So it appears that this engine is much tighter.  = I can=20 now maintain level flight burning 4 gph when it used to take 5.5=20 gph.  Can't wait until its broken in a bit more to see what = the top=20 end is.  Overhaul kit from Real World Solutions and parts = from Bruce=20 T appear to have come together in a tight nit engine.
 
But, it does appear the  = small cooling=20 inlets (which I had planned to open up a bit) are too small for = the new HP=20 being produced (are you listening, AL {:>)?. Also, several = people=20 mentioned after I arrived back at GooseCreek that the exhaust = was =20 deeper and louder.  Even = my wife=20 mentioned it no longer had that "whinny" sound.
 
So thanks for all the well wishes = from=20 everyone, advice, and engineering consultation on the cause.  = I have=20 mailed seals to Tracy and Bob Perkinson, so that should provide = some=20 "harder" data on the status of the seals.
 
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW = Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
 
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