X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 921722 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 20:36:59 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-189-178.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.189.178]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j420aA0W014893 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 20:36:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c54eae$f0438500$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's new rotor housings Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:36:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C54E8D.68EF36B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C54E8D.68EF36B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: WALTER B KERR=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's new rotor housings John Slade wrote: My understanding is that the pumps, at least the ones I'm using (or at = least WAS using when I used to be able to fly this #@#$ing thing, long = ago), are designed to run continuously. I have one Walbro Inline fuel = pump-GSL393 (from Tracy) and one Walbro Inline fuel pump-GSL394 from = Lightning Motorsports. Both have metal screw in connectors which fit AN = adapters. They're fused at 20 amps. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- OK, I'll stir the pot some more. I am not an electrical engineer, but = I do understand the power of redunancy! I will take two separately fused circuits over 1 circuit breaker every = day of the week. If there is a short in my one device or in the power = supply lines, I do not wish to be starting a fire by resetting circuit = breakers while looking for a glider port. I know there are rotary = powered airplanes out there that depend on one circuit breaker for the = entire electrical engine power source that have many, many more hours of = rotary time than me, but I sleep better have two parallel circuits = bringing electrical power to my fused engine buss and then reduntant = pumps on entirely separate fused circuits. My pumps are both checked = during run up and both on during T/O and landing. Bernie I've got to up the anti myself. I agree with Bernie, I prefer two = separate circuits, one for each pump both of which are however, = protected by separate circuit breakers vice fuses. Having flown over = 2000 hours in military aircraft as an Electronic Warfare type, there has = been numerous times, I was able to get a system that was temporarily = kicked off-line by a power surge, intermittent cable /connector problem, = etc. Working again. Resetting the circuit breaker would "SOMETIMES" = bring them back on line functioning. You do not have that possibility = with a blown fuse. Yes, most of the time whatever would pop a fuse will keep a circuit = breaker popping as well - BUT, there are intermittent problems where the = ability to push a circuit breaker back in can save the day. Nothing = against fuses, I do use them in non-flight critical areas.=20 Personal opinion, of course Ed ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C54E8D.68EF36B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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From:=20 WALTER B = KERR
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:25 = PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's = new rotor=20 housings

John=20 Slade wrote:
 
My=20 understanding is that the pumps, at least the ones I'm using (or at = least WAS=20 using when I used to be able to fly this #@#$ing=20 thing, long ago), are designed to run continuously. = I have one=20 Walbro Inline fuel pump-GSL393 (from Tracy) and one Walbro Inline fuel = pump-GSL394 from Lightning Motorsports. Both have metal screw in=20 connectors which fit AN adapters. They're fused at 20=20 amps.
 
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OK,=20 I'll stir the pot some more. I am not an electrical engineer, but I do = understand the power of redunancy!
 
I=20 will take two separately fused circuits over 1 circuit breaker every = day of=20 the week. If there is a short in my one device or in the power supply = lines, I=20 do not wish to be starting a fire by resetting circuit breakers while = looking=20 for a glider port. I know there are rotary powered airplanes out there = that=20 depend on one circuit breaker for the entire electrical engine power = source=20 that have many, many more hours of rotary time than me, but I sleep = better=20 have two parallel circuits bringing electrical power to my fused = engine buss=20 and then reduntant pumps on entirely separate fused circuits. My pumps = are=20 both checked during run up and both on during T/O and=20 landing.
 
Bernie
 
 
I've got=20 to up the anti myself.  I agree with Bernie, I prefer two = separate=20 circuits, one for each pump both of which are however, protected = by=20 separate circuit breakers vice fuses.  Having flown over 2000 = hours in=20 military aircraft as an Electronic Warfare type, there has been = numerous=20 times, I was able to get a system that was temporarily kicked off-line = by a=20 power surge, intermittent cable /connector problem, etc. Working = again. =20 Resetting the circuit breaker would "SOMETIMES" bring them back on = line=20 functioning.  You do not have that possibility with a blown=20 fuse.
 
Yes, most=20 of the time whatever would pop a fuse will keep a circuit breaker = popping as=20 well - BUT, there are intermittent problems where the ability to push = a=20 circuit breaker back in can save the day.  Nothing against fuses, = I do=20 use them in non-flight critical = areas. 
 
Personal=20 opinion, of course
 
Ed=20
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