X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.100] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 921505 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 May 2005 15:44:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.100; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-189-178.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.189.178]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j41JhBLw007680 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 15:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003801c54e86$24f90190$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Home again, home again! Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 15:44:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C54E64.9DB07310" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C54E64.9DB07310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Georges, Was burning 4 gph at 120 IAS at 3000 MSL. Fastest was right after take = off doing 140 mph IAS and burning 6.2 GPH. Have the combination = Plenum/Filter-housing designed, just need to get it built. But, I can = relax a bit now knowing my baby is not sitting out in the burning sun = waiting for a big thunderstorm to ding it with hail stones {:>). Also = got to get the transponder seated in its plugs - probably one of them = slid down a bit when running the engine without the transponder plugged = in its hole. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home again, home again! Ed It sounds like a whole new experience coming up with the new = engine particularly after you ad an air filter. We are all waiting to = here the results as they develop. Level flight at 4gph, what speed? Georges B. (waiting to hear from other "low & slow" 13b powered = A/C) -------Original Message------- From: Rotary motors in aircraft Date: 05/01/05 10:41:02 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Home again, home again! Wife, drove me and my flight gear to aircraft getting there = around 1100. By time finished loading, reinstalling the avionics - the = @$#%^ transponder wouldn't slide all the way back in an engage the pins = it was 1130 and the wind was picking up. - I figured I'd stay low = enough and out of class B airspace anyway. =20 I told her that she could pick me up back at the home airport in = NC if I didn't have any problem - she said I wouldn't have any problem. = Curious, I asked how did she know I wouldn't have any problem - = "Headwind" she said. Women, got to love em. Cranked up the engine and let oil and coolant temp rise to 120F = and taxied to runup at end or runway. Everything looking good, I = restricted takeoff rpm to 5400 (6000 ft long runway), still accelerated = rapidly and lifted off. Kept it low until hitting 140 mph hoping to = maintain good cooling. However, coolant temp rose to 220F during the = circuits of the airport as I slowly climbed. I pulled the power back to = 4500 rpm and the temps stabilized at 210F. Oil temp was around 185F. = Normally coolant is in syn with the oil or perhaps 5F higher. After = flying for approx 20 minutes coolant temps were at 200F, so slowly = coming down. This is pretty much what Tracy reported when first flying with = the Renesis engine - tight engine, more power, more heat. So it appears = that this engine is much tighter. I can now maintain level flight = burning 4 gph when it used to take 5.5 gph. Can't wait until its broken = in a bit more to see what the top end is. Overhaul kit from Real World = Solutions and parts from Bruce T appear to have come together in a tight = nit engine. But, it does appear the small cooling inlets (which I had = planned to open up a bit) are too small for the new HP being produced = (are you listening, AL {:>)?. Also, several people mentioned after I = arrived back at GooseCreek that the exhaust was deeper and louder. = Even my wife mentioned it no longer had that "whinny" sound. So thanks for all the well wishes from everyone, advice, and = engineering consultation on the cause. I have mailed seals to Tracy and = Bob Perkinson, so that should provide some "harder" data on the status = of the seals. Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C54E64.9DB07310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Georges,
 
Was burning 4 gph at 120 IAS at 3000 = MSL.   Fastest=20 was right after take off doing 140 mph IAS and burning 6.2 GPH.  = Have the=20 combination Plenum/Filter-housing designed, just need to get it = built. =20 But, I can relax a bit now knowing my baby is not sitting out in the = burning sun=20 waiting for a big thunderstorm to ding it with hail stones = {:>).  Also=20 got to get the transponder seated in its plugs - probably one of them = slid down=20 a bit when running the engine without the transponder plugged in its=20 hole.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Echo=20 Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:52 = PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Home = again, home=20 again!

Ed
It sounds like a whole new experience coming up with the = new engine=20 particularly after you ad an air filter. We are all waiting = to here=20 the results as they develop. Level flight at 4gph, what = speed?
Georges B. (waiting to hear from other "low & slow" 13b = powered=20 A/C)
 
-------Original=20 Message-------
 
From: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Date: = 05/01/05=20 10:41:02
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Home again, home again!
 
Wife, drove me and my flight = gear to=20 aircraft getting there around 1100.  By time finished = loading,=20 reinstalling the avionics - the @$#%^ transponder wouldn't slide = all the=20 way back in an engage the pins it was 1130 and the wind was = picking=20 up.  - I figured I'd stay low enough and out of class = B=20 airspace anyway. 
 
I told her that she could pick = me up back=20 at the home airport in NC if I didn't have any problem - she = said I=20 wouldn't have any problem.  Curious, I asked how did she = know I=20 wouldn't have any problem - "Headwind" she said.  Women, = got to=20 love em.
 
Cranked up the engine and let = oil and=20 coolant temp rise to 120F and taxied to runup at end or = runway. =20 Everything looking good, I restricted takeoff rpm to 5400 (6000 = ft long=20 runway), still accelerated rapidly and lifted off.  Kept it = low=20 until hitting 140 mph hoping to maintain good cooling.  = However,=20 coolant temp rose to 220F during the circuits of the airport as = I slowly=20 climbed.  I pulled the power back to 4500 rpm and the temps = stabilized at 210F.  Oil temp was around 185F.  = Normally=20 coolant is in syn with the oil or perhaps 5F higher.  After = flying=20 for approx 20 minutes coolant temps were at 200F, so slowly = coming=20 down.
 
This is pretty much what Tracy = reported=20 when first flying with the Renesis engine - tight engine, more = power,=20 more heat.  So it appears that this engine is much = tighter.  I=20 can now maintain level flight burning 4 gph when it used to take = 5.5=20 gph.  Can't wait until its broken in a bit more to see what = the top=20 end is.  Overhaul kit from Real World Solutions and parts = from=20 Bruce T appear to have come together in a tight nit = engine.
 
But, it does appear the  = small cooling=20 inlets (which I had planned to open up a bit) are too small for = the new=20 HP being produced (are you listening, AL {:>)?. Also, = several=20 people mentioned after I arrived back at GooseCreek that the = exhaust=20 was  deeper and louder.  Even=20 my wife mentioned it no longer had that "whinny" = sound.
 
So thanks for all the well = wishes from=20 everyone, advice, and engineering consultation on the = cause.  I=20 have mailed seals to Tracy and Bob Perkinson, so that should = provide=20 some "harder" data on the status of the seals.
 
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW = Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
 

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