Return-Path: Received: from frontend3.cwpanama.net ([201.225.225.169] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 850964 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:11:24 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=201.225.225.169; envelope-from=rijakits@cwpanama.net Received: from [201.224.93.110] (HELO usuarioq3efog0) by frontend3.cwpanama.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with SMTP id 37664159 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:10:49 -0500 Message-ID: <00da01c5365f$feaab300$6e5de0c9@usuarioq3efog0> From: "rijakits" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Davies-Craig EWP Test Results Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:10:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Hey" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Davies-Craig EWP Test Results > Bob, thanks for the test. I wish you could convert everything to 1.25 > hose. The reduced sections must have a significant negative effect. > I am not a pump expert but I think the EWPs are intended to move a > large volume at low pressure and probably do not do well with > restrictions. If you wanted to change out the fittings on your rad to > 1.25s, I am sure Ed Klepeis could do the job. > > I am converting my rad from AN16 to 1.25 hose which will be the only > size in the system. This is easy for me as I have a C& R rad in which > the inlets and outlets of choice can be simple screwed in place. > After reading the mixed results from your test, I goggled Davis, Craig > and spent an hour reading one good report after another. > > Thanks for the effort. We all appreciate it. Jerry > > > > > > > I note that Paul L. again today pointed out that only a certified fool > would use an EWP. > ...cut Well, PL pointed out that it takes more than any of the available/discussed EWP's to duplicate the original EDWP's flow. According to Bob's tests and other data available ( B. Schertz's doc.), he is right on that. What seems never have crossed his mind though is the possibility, that the EDWP was built to cope with idle-speed/heat/AC-on/stop and go traffic - as recently discussed on here. Todd seems to get away with EWP just fine, so maybe the flow doesn't have to be so high. I don 't dare to challange PL on the possibility that the EDWP is probably way over sized and needs lots of power for that excess flow ( ..not now at least, as long as he is too "irritated" about EWP's :) What I would like to know how the recently discussed low flow/high delta T affects the engine - higher local temps at the spark plug areas and therefor higher delta T to the intake area. Warpage, etc. Probably no way to tell yet, but wait for some EWP equipped bird do some serious time with that layout. Intuitively I am not a EWP fan (I prefer the high flow/low delta T approach - more temp tolerance in my specific hot surroundings), but like some others on the list I will wait for serious results - can't beat the proof in the P.! Cheers, Thomas J.