Return-Path: Received: from beast.vigilante.net ([209.237.248.21] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP-TLS id 818245 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:52:38 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.237.248.21; envelope-from=stjohn@openbar.com Received: (qmail 20196 invoked by uid 89); 24 Mar 2005 04:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.vigilante.net) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 24 Mar 2005 04:08:25 -0000 Received: from 66.153.59.250 (SquirrelMail authenticated user stjohn@openbar.com) by webmail.vigilante.net with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:08:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <15487.66.153.59.250.1111637305.squirrel@webmail.vigilante.net> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:08:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New to the list, and some questions. From: "John Courte" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Reply-To: stjohn@openbar.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Thanks for the info, guys! And Rusty, Congratulations on the (flying) RV3! Now i have to get over to the SoCal RV list and connive somebody into giving me a ride so that I'm truly convinced. If I fly in the RV and don't like it (not likely), I'll go for the pusher, even though I HATE sanding, but I loved how the Vari-EZE flew. BTW, since I posted last time, I searched the list archives again, and found Tracy's post on http://www.car-part.com. There is a wrecker in Tampa that has a Renesis for $3k, but that was the only one I found. > MessageI agree with you Rusty. I have hit 6800 rpm with my old 13B and > believe that if you took a 13B and spent another 600 on lightening and > balancing the rotating mechanism for say 9000 rpm, you would produce at > least as much power as the Renesis. On the other hand my "New" model is > already 14 years old, so if starting from scratch, I would probably go for > a junkyard Renesis. Still waiting for the first RX-8 in this area to get > rear-ended (no injuries of course). > > Going to take a long nap! Yawn > > Ed > > Truth be told, I don't think the Renesis will really outrun the 13B in > our rpm range. I think Mazda just made a better intake, and turned up > the rpms. There are certainly some improvements in the Renesis, but it's > not light years ahead in performance. It's absolutely possible to get > 200 HP from a 13B at less than 7500 rpm, with nothing more than a street > port, and a decent intake and exhaust. Tracy was doing it, and I expect > to be as well. All that being said, the Renesis is clearly the future of > the rotary, and there's no downside with the exception of a bit higher > price at the moment. I think the Renesis is a slam-dunk choice for folks > starting out now. > Cheers, > Rusty (must be Ed's nap time) > Mazda 13B rotary powered RV-3 (flying) > Kolb Slingshot (Mazda single rotor project) > Sonerai-IIL (next project in line)