Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.102] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 818237 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:39:59 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from [192.168.0.100] (cpe-065-187-243-074.nc.rr.com [65.187.243.74]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j2O3d6kc026815 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:39:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42423656.1000104@nc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:39:02 -0500 From: Ernest Christley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041127) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EWP: How much is enough References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Bob White wrote: >Hi Ernest, > >Problem is, what have you learned. It might be good data, but won't give "The >Answer". > > > I'm looking at the cooling system having two aspects. First is the average temp. This is determined by how much fuel you're burning and how much cooling your accomplishing. The second aspect is a ripple on the average line. A drop of water traveling the circuit will first get way above the average, then drop way below. This aspect is wholly controlled by the flow rate. Higher flow equates to a smaller ripple. Critical measurement is the exit temp from the engine. I think the consensus has been that a 200F exit temp is the maximum. If you shrink the ripple (increase flow), you can live with a higher average. With low flow, you have to sink the average to give the coolant some headroom. If we can correlate a flow to a headroom that's needed, we'll have better numbers for laying out the rest of the system. >The real question is what effect the various delta T's will have on engine >life. I have no doubt that more flow is better at keeping the engine at a more >uniform temperature, but have no idea what that means for engine life. > > > I doubt that I'll have a rotary that reaches the proclaimed 2000hr TBO that Lycs crow about. Rebuilding the thing is just too darn cheap and easy. For $1000 and a weekend you get to see the exact condition of the engine's internals. I say run it hot and fast. Then tear it down in 5yrs. -- This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."