Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 810991 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:10:36 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-185-127.carolina.rr.com [24.74.185.127]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j2J29W0W014332 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:09:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002601c52c28$b7fa37f0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric water pump Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:09:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C52BFE.CEC742E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C52BFE.CEC742E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At SERFI Flyin 2003, I took off behind Finn and immediately after lift = off with perhaps 15-20 ft altitude (or less) the aircraft roll = violently up (45-60deg) with the right wing - and yawed approx 15-20deg = to the left - subconscious reaction was stick/rudder full right - no = immediate response, had time to think "control problem" when the = aircraft reversed and rolled up its left wing. Scared a couple years = off my fast receding youth. Later decided it was Finn's prop wash and = now make certain that the aircraft in front of me takes off on the down = wind side of the runway or I simply wait until he has lifted off and = cleared the end of the runway. That small RV3 generated enough prop wake to roll my rather heavy RV-6 = around like a toy. Not nice close to the ground and slow on airspeed. Ed A ----- Original Message -----=20 From: kenpowell@comcast.net=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric water pump I was there too. Made a REAL BELIEVER out of me. Small airplanes do = have wake turbulence; Probably off the prop wake IMHO; others seem to = think wing tip vortices. For those who weren't there: at Tracy'sin = 2002 (I think), Finn started his takeoff run soon after ED had lifted = off; as he (Finn) 'rotated' the aircraft rolled left (hard) and the left = wingtip lightly brushed the ground. Scared me silly; Finn had no idea = how close he came to ???????. Ken Powell=20 Bryant, Arkansas=20 501-847-4721 -------------- Original message --------------=20 > Charlie England wrote:=20 >=20 > > Finn Lassen wrote:=20 > >=20 > >> Obviously you've never flown right behind Tracy :)=20 > >>=20 > >> Finn (I guess only Ed will appreciate this one)=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Wanna bet? I saw the grass stains on your wingtip. I also saw = you get=20 > > 'em.=20 > >=20 > > Charlie=20 >=20 > Well, can't blame Tracy for that one. Sometimes it helps if you're = > already awake when you start flying and don't have to wake up = during=20 > takeoff.=20 >=20 > Finn=20 >=20 >=20 > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C52BFE.CEC742E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

At SERFI Flyin 2003, I took off behind = Finn and=20 immediately after lift off with perhaps 15-20 ft altitude (or less) = the=20 aircraft roll violently up (45-60deg) with the right wing - and yawed=20 approx 15-20deg to the left - subconscious reaction was=20 stick/rudder full right - no immediate response, had time to think = "control=20 problem" when the aircraft reversed and rolled up its left = wing. =20 Scared a couple years off my fast receding youth. Later = decided it=20 was Finn's prop wash and now make certain that the aircraft in front of = me takes=20 off on the down wind side of the runway or I simply wait until he has = lifted off=20 and cleared the end of the runway.

That small RV3 generated enough = prop wake to=20 roll my rather heavy RV-6 around like a toy. Not nice close to the = ground=20 and slow on airspeed.

Ed A

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 kenpowell@comcast.net
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft

Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 = 8:19=20 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Electric water=20 pump

I was there too. Made a REAL BELIEVER out of me. = Small=20 airplanes do have wake turbulence; Probably off the prop wake=20 IMHO; others seem to think wing tip vortices. For those = who=20 weren't there: at Tracy'sin 2002 (I think), Finn started his = takeoff run=20 soon after ED had lifted off; as he (Finn) 'rotated' the aircraft = rolled left=20 (hard) and the left wingtip lightly brushed the ground. Scared = me silly;=20 Finn had no idea how close he came to ???????.

Ken Powell
Bryant, Arkansas
501-847-4721

--------------=20 Original message --------------

> Charlie England wrote: =
>=20
> > Finn Lassen wrote:
> >
> >> = Obviously=20 you've never flown right behind Tracy :)
> >>
> = >>=20 Finn (I guess only Ed will appreciate this one)
> > =
> >=20
> > Wanna bet? I saw the grass stains on your wingtip. I = also saw=20 you get
> > 'em.
> >
> > Charlie =
>=20
> Well, can't blame Tracy for that one. Sometimes it helps if = you're=20
> already awake when you start flying and don't have to wake = up=20 during
> takeoff.
>
> Finn
>
> =
>=20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> >> = Archive:=20 http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html=20

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