Return-Path: Received: from rokland5.awh.us ([67.15.10.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP-TLS id 810857 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:47:55 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.15.10.31; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from bgp01386375bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.160.229]:33533 helo=quail) by rokland5.awh.us with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCS7Q-0001Yj-GA for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:47:08 -0600 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:47:06 -0700 From: Bob White To: FlyRotary Subject: Water Pump Viscosity Test Message-Id: <20050318174706.286880b6.bob@bob-white.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.6 (GTK+ 2.4.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rokland5.awh.us X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: I completed the viscosity test this afternoon. Bottom line is that viscosity is not a major factor in determining the flow from a centrifugal pump in our operating range. Here are the facts: Temperatue of the fluid varied between 49 and 55 F. Fluid #1 is 50/50 EG/W with a viscosity at 50 F of about 5.3 cp Fluid #2 is water with a viscosity at 50 F of 1.3 cp The viscosity of the EG/W is 1.3 at around 130 F, so the water at 50 F has the viscosity of EG/W at 130 F. The temperature variations will change the numbers somewhat, but not enough to invalidate the test. There is still a significant difference in viscosity. (viscosity data was obtained from the Engineerng Tool Box, http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ ) If the viscosity theory is correct, I should see a significantly higher flow with the water as compared to the EG/W. I set the pump up so that I was pumping water out of a container, thru the flow meter, and back into the container. With the system filled with EG/W, I restricted the flow to 6 GPM which is about what I was getting with the pump working thru my engine and evap core. I then filled the system with water and compared the flow rate. Keeping in mind that the flow meter scale is very compressed in this region, the water flow reading was between 5.5 and 6 GPM. It was definitely lower than the EG/W reading. I also did a flow measurement of both fluids with no extra restriction. The EG/W measured 11 GPM and the water 10.8 GPM. Again, the water reading was lower. We still need to apply the specific gravity correction factor. The specific gravity of the EG/W at 50 F is 1.08 and the correction factor is the square root of (1/1.08) = 0.96. Multiplying the EG/W reading of 11 by 0.96 = 10.56 which, within the measurement error, is the same as the water measurement. The best I could say is that lowering the viscosity a factor of 3 to 4 increased the flow rate by a factor of 10.8/10.56 = 1.02 or 2 percent. Effectively there is no difference in flow with a change in viscosity in the regime we are working in. I'll put all of the data and some photos of the test setup on the Wiki this evening after I get them off the camera. Bob W. -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (real soon)