Return-Path: Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.71] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 791990 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:35:56 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.71; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [209.215.61.242] by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050314033510.BWIN24632.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[209.215.61.242]> for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:35:10 -0500 Message-ID: <4235066C.6050801@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:35:08 -0600 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: peripheral ports References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Russell Duffy > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:56 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: peripheral ports > > Thanks, Richard....I may just order the Racing Beat lightweight > aluminum housings. They are available unported, stock ported or > street ported, etc. Paul Conner > > Good luck. The rear and intermediate housings have been available > for quite some time, but the front housing has been "almost ready" > for a couple years now. The last time I talked to them was > January, and I got the same story. > > BTW, when you call them, ask how they feel about peripheral ports > in aircraft use, and you may forget the whole thing. Using the PP > for aircraft can certainly be done, but there's no slam dunk > recipe for it at the moment, unless you want to buy a Powerports > engine. At the moment, there are some good projects going on, but > until they get to the point of flying, and providing real world > data, it's far from a sure thing. > > There's also considerable doubt whether a good PP engine can > actually out produce a good side port (ported REW housings) engine > in the rpm's we're running. I'd be willing to bet that the side > port will be more civilized across the rpm range too. > > Don't take this wrong. I desperately want to see some of these > project get completed, and I hope it's a great as they think it > will be. Just can't say for sure until it actually happens. > > Cheers, > Rusty > > > I have been giving this a lot of thought, also, Rusty. Most > articles I read about the PPorts talk about the engine not idling > (or even running) below 2000 rpm's. That is 1000 prop rpm's for > me....I would float too much once in ground effect. Also, it > appears that the PPorts seem to give the most advantage at rpm's > much higher than I intend to operate at. Especially with a 2.17:1 > PRSU, I need to get my power around 6000 rpm's so that the prop > tips do not go supersonic, etc. > Sounding like the street ported 4-port housings I already > purchased might be my best option after all. I've read that the > street port gives a boost to top end power without sacrificing > idle or transition speeds, and a low, dependable idle is a nice > thing to have on short final. Harder to go around once the engine > quits. Paul Conner > I like the idea of p-ports, but quicker, cheaper power might be in a 2.85 drive & new prop. That won't shed the weight, though. Charlie