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???: Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher) <echolakeresort@telus.net>
??: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Different Tangential Mufflers
??: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 15:07:46 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
??: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi!
I'm could be wrong on this, but if you add air into the exhaust in that way you will RAISE the temperature due to adding oxygen to the unburnt fuel, you will reduce exhaust emissions though.
 
 
 
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Date: 03/09/05 13:37:49
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Different Tangential Mufflers
 
Tracy,  here is what I am hoping will happen.  Heat will be pulled out
of the exhaust gas by the additional skin area (187 sq inches) provided
by the cool tube. This effect will be greatly magnified by the steady
stream of high velocity cool air passing through the cool tube.  As the
exhaust gas looses temp, it also looses velocity. The exhaust pulses
will weaken.  Someone else, on the other list, calculated it would
reduce inside muffler temps as much as 200 degrees. That is what I am
hoping will happen.  It is hard for me to believe the cool tube would
have no or very slight effect.  Bob White is going to instrument his
exhaust so that we can get some real numbers.   Regards,  Jerry
 
 
 
On Wednesday, March 9, 2005, at 04:00  PM, Tracy Crook wrote:
 
>  
> I may not be understanding what the 2 rotor version (cool pipe going
> all the way through) is supposed to accomplish or maybe my gut-feel
> thermodynamic instincts are way off.  I can't imagine this would have
> any significant effect on exhaust temps, muffler wall temp or sound. 
>  
> Tracy  (been wrong more than once)
>  
>  
> Bill, from the picture you sent, it isn't clear to me where the 'cool
> tube' ends inside the muffler.  Give me a clue!
>
>  
> Tracy
>
>
> Tracy, On the small muffler (2 rotor) the cool tube goes all the way
> thru. The front of the tube needs a feed from the cowl. The exit needs
> a pipe to the cowl exit although it could be very thin. This is a
> sealed style like Jerry Hey and Ed Klepis have come up with. On the 3
> rotor pipe the cool tube stops just inside the tailpipe. The section
> might be a little confusing as it shows a small support bar that was
> suggested to prevent the internal pipe from sagging. The sections I
> included should give a good indication. The intent is to form a
> annulus that should draw air through the tube venturi style. This
> needs only some clear space in front of the muffler. The idea is that
> you should mix air in the tailpipe to A; cool the exhaust and not burn
> the paint off the belly, and B; lessen the exhaust note by absorbing
> some of the exhaust energy by mixing cooler air with the exhaust.
> Bill Jepson
>  
>
 
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