Return-Path: Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 775815 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:00:03 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.64; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from paul52u7f5qyav ([209.214.44.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with SMTP id <20050308215914.TOXQ28183.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@paul52u7f5qyav> for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:59:14 -0500 Message-ID: <003401c5242a$096d46b0$722cd6d1@paul52u7f5qyav> From: "Paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: acetone ? Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:58:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C523F7.BDDF9D10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C523F7.BDDF9D10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageHi, Herb....I am still playing with it on the ground. I did a = couple of aborted takeoffs yesterday, and it seemed to be running fine. = Today I ran it with the top cowling off to see how many rpm's I could = get with unrestricted airflow into the TWM throttlebody. Today it only = went to 5250 rpm's static. Last week I had it up to 5600 rpm's static. = By the time I was starting to play with the mixture settings, the temps = were getting too hot, so I shut it down for the day. Hopefully tomorrow = I will get to do it again, and this time I will have more time to adjust = prior to overheating temps are reached. The engine is running very smoothly, with no hesitation anywhere = from idle (800 rpm) to full throttle (5250 rpm's). I finished the ram = air scoop on the cowling to bring inflight ram air to the throttlebody = intake. I am also making an aluminum scoop that bolts to the = throttlebody, which is kind of like a short periscope that protrudes = into the fiberglass ram air intake scoop I just made (on the cowling). = That way, any incoming air has nowhere else to go but to feed the = throttlebody. It is all fabricated, I just need to get it welded.( I do = not want any screws or nuts on this intake that might possibly come = loose and be ingested into the engine). Call me chicken, I don't care. I also purchased an MS HA-6 sidedraft carburetor. I am going to = make an intake plenum for it similar to Ron Gowan's rotary powered = LongEZ system, except that the intake runners will be shorter, since his = is mounted plugs up, and mine is mounted oil pan down. Haven't commited = to the carburetor yet, as I am still giving the ECU one last chance to = prove it's virtues. =20 The HA-6 carb has manual mixture control and would eliminate a lot = of electrical current demand on my system if I dump the two high = pressure fuel pumps, electrically fired injectors, etc. I could also = dump the controversial fuel return line, vented sump tank, etc, etc. = The down side is I will have to hook up a mixture control lever and = supply carb heat. The carb's close proximity to the exhaust makes carb = heat provision very easy, of course. Decisions, decisions. Guess I = shouldn't complain as I do have a good flying canard aircraft with which = I get to make these decisions....only the engine/fuel system needs more = experimentation. Glad it's an experimental, and I am allowed to = experiment. I also purchased street ported 4-port turbo engine parts, and an = extra 6 port NA engine, so that I can use two engines to make one street = ported 4-port with NA rotors and housings. On the other hand, if I get = my 5600 static rpm's back on my present 1989 turbo engine (minus turbo), = I just might keep and be happy with what I have on the plane right now. = That extra rpm would probably put me over 200 mph, and I would be quite = satisfied with that. I could always sell what I don't need. Paul, = sorry I bored you to death, Conner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Herb Sanders=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:49 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: acetone ? I just check in to see if Paul is flying his Hangar Que - uh, 'scuse = me, Speed Queen againJ. You need to get that bird going and fly the time = off, Paul, so you can bring it to S&F. Herb Sanders Before you put = me in my place, my Velocity is not even a hangar queen yet, it is still = a SQ (shop queen).=20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Mark R Steitle Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:24 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: acetone ? Jesse, Well buddy, I guess its just you and me. I was wondering the same = thing (where did everybody go!!!!) =20 Mark S. (I guess I bored everyone to death with my thread on fuel filter = fittings) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of jesse farr Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:09 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] acetone ? The last email I received was at 9:46 PM yesterday and was about = acetone; either someone somewhere spilled some of it on our server; or = this list has gone quiet, all of a sudden. If I have offended any of you = out there to the point you have simply cut me off all this good info, I = apologize, sincerely, no less. THIS IS A TEST. jofarr, soddy tn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.3 - Release Date: 3/7/2005 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C523F7.BDDF9D10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi, Herb....I am still playing with it = on the=20 ground. I did a couple of aborted takeoffs yesterday, and it seemed to = be=20 running fine.  Today I ran it with the top cowling off to see how = many=20 rpm's I could get with unrestricted airflow into the TWM throttlebody. = Today it=20 only went to 5250 rpm's static.   Last week I had it up to = 5600 rpm's=20 static.  By the time I was starting to play with the mixture = settings, the=20 temps were getting too hot, so I shut it down for the day.  = Hopefully=20 tomorrow I will get to do it again, and this time I will have more time = to=20 adjust prior to overheating temps are reached.
      The = engine is=20 running very smoothly, with no hesitation anywhere from idle (800 rpm) = to full=20 throttle (5250 rpm's).  I finished the ram air scoop on the cowling = to=20 bring inflight ram air to the throttlebody intake.  I am also = making an=20 aluminum scoop that bolts to the throttlebody, which is kind of like a = short=20 periscope that protrudes into the fiberglass ram air intake scoop I just = made=20 (on the cowling). That way, any incoming air has nowhere else to go but = to feed=20 the throttlebody. It is all fabricated, I just need to get it welded.( I = do not=20 want any screws or nuts on this intake that might possibly come loose = and be=20 ingested into the engine). Call me chicken, I don't care.
     I also = purchased an MS=20 HA-6 sidedraft carburetor. I am going to make an intake plenum for it = similar to=20 Ron Gowan's rotary powered LongEZ system, except that the intake runners = will be=20 shorter, since his is mounted plugs up, and mine is mounted oil pan = down. =20 Haven't commited to the carburetor yet, as I am still giving the ECU one = last=20 chance to prove it's virtues. 
      The HA-6 = carb has=20 manual mixture control and would eliminate a lot of electrical current = demand on=20 my system if I dump the two high pressure fuel pumps, electrically = fired=20 injectors, etc.  I could also dump the controversial fuel return=20 line, vented sump tank, etc, etc.  The down side is I will = have to=20 hook up a mixture control lever and supply carb heat. The carb's = close=20 proximity to the exhaust makes carb heat provision very easy, of course. =  Decisions, decisions.  Guess I shouldn't complain as I do = have a good=20 flying canard aircraft with which I get to make these decisions....only = the=20 engine/fuel system needs more experimentation.  Glad it's an = experimental,=20 and I am allowed to experiment.
     I also = purchased street=20 ported 4-port turbo engine parts, and an extra 6 port NA engine, so = that I can use two engines to make one street ported 4-port with NA = rotors=20 and housings. On the other hand, if I get my 5600 static rpm's back on = my=20 present 1989 turbo engine (minus turbo), I just might keep and be happy = with=20 what I have on the plane right now.  That extra rpm would probably = put me=20 over 200 mph, and I would be quite satisfied with that.  I could = always=20 sell what I don't need.  Paul, sorry I bored you to death,=20 Conner
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Herb=20 Sanders
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 = 1:49=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = acetone ?

I just = check in to=20 see if Paul is flying his Hangar Que =96 uh, =91scuse me, Speed Queen=20 againJ. You need = to get=20 that bird going and fly the time off, Paul, so you can bring it to=20 S&F.  Herb Sanders      Before you = put me in=20 my place, my Velocity is not even a hangar queen yet, it is still a SQ = (shop=20 queen).

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark R = Steitle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 = 1:24=20 PM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: acetone ?

 

Jesse,

Well buddy, = I guess=20 its just you and me.  I was wondering the same thing (where did = everybody=20 go!!!!) 

 

Mark=20 S.

(I guess I = bored=20 everyone to death with my thread on fuel filter = fittings)

From: Rotary=20 motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of jesse = farr
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 = 1:09=20 PM
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 acetone ?

 

The last email I = received was at=20 9:46 PM yesterday and was about acetone; either someone somewhere = spilled some=20 of it on our server; or this list has gone quiet, all of a sudden. If = I have=20 offended any of you out there to the point you have simply cut me off = all this=20 good info, I apologize, sincerely, no less. <g> THIS IS A=20 TEST.

jofarr, soddy=20 tn

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG=20 Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.3 - Release = Date:=20 3/7/2005
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