Return-Path: Received: from mailout2.pacific.net.au ([61.8.0.85] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 774382 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:33:10 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=61.8.0.85; envelope-from=peon@pacific.net.au Received: from mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (mailproxy1.pacific.net.au [61.8.0.86]) by mailout2.pacific.net.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j27MWNHn014151 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:32:23 +1100 Received: from ar1 (ppp2B22.dyn.pacific.net.au [61.8.43.34]) by mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j27MWJS4030520 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:32:20 +1100 Message-ID: <002701c52364$ddb02ee0$222b083d@ar1> From: "Leon" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Warning on Methylene Chloride was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: extending cowling Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:27:35 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C523C1.1056EE40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C523C1.1056EE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageHey Marv, Guys, ****WARNING***** Methylene chloride is a highly toxic solvent, second only to carbon = tetrachloride for it's leathality. I speak from experience! It is the active ingredient in paint stripper and of "Carbon Remover" = that mechanics use to remove carbon from rotors, pistons and cylinder = heads. Excellent solvent - It'll take the stain off your character if = you leave it on long enough. However, it is also particularly good at = damaging livers, spleens, and pancreases. It will absorb through the = skin, and will accumulate in the fatty tissues. It is really difficult = to get out of the system. I used it for many years without any apparent ill effects. One day, (a = hot summer's day as I remember), I opened a new drum of the stuff, = (using full protective clothing), and filled up the cleaning tank. = Within 48 hours, I was nearly dead. My skin broke out in big red = blotches, (Chloracne), and my ears were literally dripping with serum. = I'd become sensitised to the stuff. I'd reached my limit of tolerance. = The following weeks were hell. It badly damaged my immume system, as = well as nearly destroying my liver and spleen. I became so ill that I = had to close my business. Took me years to recover from the effects. = NOT nice!! So guys, be warned, be REALLY careful using any solvent. Only use = them in a well ventillated place, and wear Nitrile rubber gloves and a = respirator.. Try and use stuff that isn't so toxic. Denatured alcohol = is probably the safest. REMEMBER, anything that contains chlorinated = hydrocarbons is TOXIC. Different chemicals affect different people = different ways. It might cause metabolic problems in one person, = immune system problems in another, and cause cancer in another. So = beware of chlorinated hydrocarbon solvents, they can be killers. Cheers, Leon ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:29 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: extending cowling If you're trying to prep for bonding and have used and continue using = epoxy for the layups then the best degreaser is methylene chloride.=20 Hi Marvin, Is this the main ingredient in any product I'd know by name, or is it = just packaged as methylene chloride? I've heard this is a particularly = nasty thing to work with. Do you know that to be true? =20 Thanks, Rusty (just took the rest of the week off, gotta get busy now) ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C523C1.1056EE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hey Marv, Guys,
 
****WARNING*****
 
Methylene chloride is a highly toxic = solvent, =20 second only to carbon tetrachloride for it's leathality.  I speak = from=20 experience!
 
It is the active ingredient in paint = stripper and=20 of "Carbon Remover" that mechanics use to remove carbon from = rotors, =20 pistons and cylinder heads.  Excellent solvent - It'll take the = stain off=20 your character if you leave it on long enough.  However,  it = is also=20 particularly good at damaging livers,  spleens,  and=20 pancreases. It will absorb through the skin,  and will = accumulate in=20 the fatty tissues.  It is really difficult to get out of the=20 system.
 
I used it for many years without any = apparent ill=20 effects.  One day,  (a hot summer's day as I remember), I = opened=20 a new drum of the stuff, (using full protective clothing),  and = filled up=20 the cleaning tank.  Within 48 hours,  I was nearly dead.  = My skin=20 broke out in big red blotches,  (Chloracne),  and my ears were = literally dripping with serum.  I'd become sensitised to the = stuff. =20 I'd reached my limit of tolerance.  The following weeks were = hell.  It=20 badly damaged my immume system,  as well as nearly destroying my = liver and=20 spleen.  I became so ill that I had to close my business.  = Took me=20 years to recover from the effects.  NOT nice!!
 
So guys,  be warned,  be = REALLY careful=20 using any solvent.  Only use them in a well ventillated = place,  and=20 wear Nitrile rubber gloves and a respirator.. Try and use stuff that = isn't so=20 toxic.  Denatured alcohol is probably the safest.  = REMEMBER, =20 anything that contains chlorinated hydrocarbons is = TOXIC.  Different=20 chemicals affect different people different ways.  It might cause = metabolic=20 problems in one person,  immune system problems in another, =  and=20 cause cancer in another.  So beware of chlorinated hydrocarbon=20 solvents,  they can be killers.
 
Cheers,
 
Leon
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 = 3:29=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = extending=20 cowling

If you're trying to prep for bonding and have used = and=20 continue using epoxy
for the layups then the best degreaser is = methylene=20 chloride. 

 
Hi=20 Marvin,
 
Is = this the main=20 ingredient in any product I'd know by name, or is it just packaged as=20 methylene chloride?   I've heard this is a particularly = nasty thing=20 to work with.  Do you know that to be=20 true?  
 
Thanks,
Rusty = (just took the=20 rest of the week off, gotta get busy=20 now)
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