Return-Path: Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 764009 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:09:12 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.164; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.77]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67363641E0 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 05:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164]) by filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.77]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08628-08-45 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 05:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-89-39.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.89.39]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB15364193 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 05:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4223F8C5.10805@frontiernet.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:08:21 -0600 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [FlyRotary]actual water flow was Belt rumnations; soliciting Opinions of racers please.... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0508-4, 02/27/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Rusty, I only heard today that Al G. had flow data on his dyno. He might have some ideas around this. As to head pressure, I believe I was taught that head pressure only exists in an open system. In a closed system it all cancels out going around the circle. But that was a long time ago ... Jim S. Russell Duffy wrote: > What we > need is some expire mental measurement of flow rate under actual > conditions (which will involve a flow meter in the system) and then, > with the engine at rest (the pump is the only moving part in the > system), we can see how much current it takes to achieve that flow rate. > Sadly, the pivotal instrument, a flow meter that doesn't disturb the > system too much, is probably not available. If someone could come up > with a flow meter in a 1.25" line, we could do some expirements. > Other than that, we're guessing at numbers like PL and the bumblebee > folks ... Jim S. > > I agree. Everyone keeps talking about all this head pressure that the > pump is having to face. It must be stealth pressure, because my > pressure gauge doesn't see it. > > As I type, I'm also looking for a suitable flow meter, and I'm open > for suggestions. The plan will be to rig this into my system, and > find out once and for all what sort of flow I've got with both the > mechanical, and EWP. I doubt there's any way to have this in place > during flight, so Ernest will say it's not valid :-) > > So don't make this too painful, but lets here some options for > suitable meters. > > Rusty (Todd has already done all this of course) >