Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 762887 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:19:59 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-185-127.carolina.rr.com [24.74.185.127]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j1SHJAee013952 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:19:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000d01c51db9$a59444c0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] injector life and reliability Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:19:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Bernie, Your injectors should be fine, the drivers won't hurt the injectors - however, the injectors can hurt the drivers. Because a saturation driver is expecting more resistance (less current requirement) from a saturated type injector of around 12-16 ohms. If you stick a Peak and Hold (around 2.5 ohms) in a circuit designed for saturation injectors, they (Peak and hold) will draw considerably more current and may exceed the design limit of the saturation injector driver thereby damaging it. On the other hand, if the designer "over-designed" the driver it may cause no damage at all. If you put a saturation injectors in a circuit designed for Peak and Hold, you will not damage the drivers because the saturation injector will never exceed the current draw the P&H circuit was designed for - but, you may not get very good injection especially at the lower rpms. So if anything could have been damaged - it would have been the EC2, but Tracy has done a good job of providing a bit of margin there as well. I don't doubt you had a bad injectors ( I have had several - they are just getting old), but I doubt it was caused by the lack of resistors. Tracy, of course, will correct any incorrect reference to his design work {:>) Ed A ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] injector life and reliability > > Here is a comment from the TWM site that Rusty suggested: > Most peak and hold drivers will drive both high and low resistance injectors but, under no circumstances, should peak and hold injectors be driven with saturated drivers. > > I mistakenly ran short time without 5 ohm ballaster resistor in line with P&H injectors. Wonder if I killed their life? My used injectors that came with Bruce's package were cleaned and flowed before mistaken running. One died shortly and I replaced with a rebuilt auto store one. Now I believe another was has an anomally. Yuk! > > Should I trade them all out before I fly? > > Makes me glad that I put the injector disable switches in and have 2 per rotor. > > Bernie > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >