Return-Path: Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.165] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 762333 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:28:25 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.165; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.73]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44966370319 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.165]) by filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.73]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16005-04-9 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-89-39.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.89.39]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F38370357 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4222ABC7.3020308@frontiernet.net> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:27:35 -0600 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] FW: Cooling system update References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0508-4, 02/27/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net THAT is a great idea. Probably cost maybe 87 cents to manufacture, but a critical accessory, particularly for an EWP. I'm *definitely* going to install one in my system ... Jim S. Chuck Dunlap wrote: > > > > My coolant temperature has been rising little by little over the 440 > hours I have been flying my 13B. Last summer on the way to Arlington > fly-in, I departed St George Utah at 100 degrees OAT and the coolant > temp quickly rose to 230, my absolute maximum allowable. I could not > climb above pattern altitude, so I landed. I cobbled together a water > dribble system out of drip irrigation tubing, and it allowed me to > continue the trip. After returning home I decided something had to be > done. After checking everything I could think of, I removed the > radiator, and after careful inspection, I found debris clogging much > of the core that was visible. Some of it was bits of silicone used to > help seal the couplings, and some of it looked like scale from the > water jackets.I cleaned out as much as I could get to, and I made a > screen out of stainless mesh and inserted in line inside one of the 1 > 1/2" silicone hose couplings. I flew it like that for about 10 hours > while I had a new radiator made by Griffin Radiator. Coolant temps > were better, but still not acceptable. I got the new radiator > installed yesterday, and I found the screen already 3/4 clogged with > more scale debris. > Today I flew it with the new radiator, and at OAT of about 65 F a full > power climb out at 80 KIAS resulted in the coolant temp stabilizing at > 167 F. I am not running a thermostat, and part throttle cruise coolant > temp was about 130F. Descending out of 10000 ft the coolant temp > dropped to about 110F, and my cabin heat was practically nil. Looks > like I need cowl flaps now! I am actually looking forward to some 100 > degree days this summer to see how it cools now. If a 35 degree rise > in OAT results in the same rise in coolant temp, I predict that my max > coolant temp will not go above 202 F. > My coolant temp rise problem has been so gradual, while other things > were being changed around, that the possibility of a clogged radiator > did not even cross my mind. > Lessons learned: 1. Keep good flight data and refer to if often, the > only way to catch gradual trends. > 2. A cooling system in an aircraft definitely needs some sort of > screen or filter. I may try one of these http://www.babymall.com.au/tefba/ > 3. 230 F does not seem to have hurt my 13B, I have probably 10 total > hours flying at that temp. > > Keep the shiny side up! > > Chuck Dunlap > N616RV 13B