Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 761408 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:50:01 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-185-127.carolina.rr.com [24.74.185.127]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j1RBnEee023849 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:49:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005401c51cc2$62016960$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Monster Prop Air Brake Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:49:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Certainly wouldn't argue with your hypothesis, Charlie. Whichever it is, pulling the power back to idle with the new combination does definitely increase the rate of descent over the old prop/gearbox combination. I generally carry around 3000-3200 rpm abeam the touchdown point, I may decrease it to 2800 rpm if it looks like I am going to be long, but I think I will pick a calm day and see what an "idle" from abeam looks like from a rate/angle of descent with the new prop/gearbox. Thanks for the insight Ed. > My non-prop-guy (but RV-experienced) opinion is that you might have had > a bit more drag but what you really had was a lot *less thrust*. > > My 1st RV-4 had a 72" dia cruise prop (would run 195 mph at 2550rpm, > 9.3gph in still air on 160hp) so it probably wasn't too far from your > prop. If prop rpm at idle was set higher than around 700rpm (sitting > still on the ground) you almost couldn't make the plane land because of > the extra thrust. > > Is there a chance that you got used to a flattened approach slope with > the old gearbox/prop because it was still making a fair amount of > thrust? With the wider ratio gearbox & pulling the engine to idle, I'll > bet you actually got the prop slow enough to stop making thrust. > > Charlie > (always trying to fly patterns at idle from abeam the numbers to touchdown) > > >