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Good points. I can't get excited about eliminating belts
because I have never seen even a hint of a problem with them * when
properly installed *. This includes all experience with cars and
aircraft.
I *have* seen them fail when pulleys were not properly aligned, debris or
damage caused the pulley to wobble, they were overloaded, or other installation
errors.
Belts are a very mature and reliable technology. There may be
good reasons to replace a belt but reliability is not one of them.
Tracy Crook
As
a public service announcement... Please change the post topic to fit your
post. It just makes sense. Get creative! Make a new
Subject Title!
A question about belts; what are the race guys
doing? Do they see belt failures? Is Tracy using a belt? Ever
failed?
I admit I feel more comfortable without belts, but we should be
deciding this on facts not feelings. I don't have any facts.
I
understand many automotive overhead cams use belts. A failure will
(if interference engine) bend valves and break pistons. These belts
must be a well known quantity.
I perceive the "danger"of a belt is
the potential cascading failure. Belt failure takes out alt and water
pump and air-conditioning (if your John Slade). But i guess, if this
case is sufficiently rare then a secondary alt and water pump not effected
by this event will serve as a back up allowing us to complete the
flight.
To argue the other side of the coin, not using the automotive
water and alt system is throwing away cheap well engineered and proven,
easy to use system away, to get something we "feel" is better.
Remember, the most common failure of auto conversations is the supporting
systems.
Eric
From: "Marvin Kaye" > Here's some general
drive belt data from CarCareCouncil.org. It pretty well > sums
up the v-belt vs serpentine question: > > """ > Description:
Fan belt is the traditional term for what today is called a drive >
belt. Drive belts are made of reinforced, high-tensile strength cords
and > synthetic rubber. They connect the engine to front-mounted
accessories. Belts > come in two different types: The traditional
V-belt (cross-section of belts > has a V-shape for V-shaped pulleys)
and the serpentine belt (also called > Poly-V, Poly-Rib, Multi-Rib, and
Micro-V belt), which uses multiple Vs for > more positive contact with
its mating pulleys. > > Purpose: Drive belts provide power to
engine-mounted accessories like the > power steering pump, air
conditioning compressor, mechanical cooling fan, and > air injection
pump. Serpentine belts are now used on almost all vehicles. > >
Maintenance Tips/Suggestions: Studies show that the chances of a
drive belt > failure rises dramatically after four years or 36,000
miles for V-belts, > 50,000 miles for serpentine belts. This doesn?t
mean that the belts shouldn?t > be inspected before then, though. The
belts should be checked every time the > oil is changed to make sure
they?re OK and properly tightened. When checking > V-belts, a
slipping belt usually has shiny sidewalls (glazing) caused by heat >
from sliding in the pulleys. The glazing often causes a
chattering, slapping > or squealing noise. And, because the glazing
hardens the belt, it's prone to > cracking and early failure. Belt
slippage often occurs because of low tension, > the wrong belt, or
grease or oil. Missing chunks, or separating layers of the > belt
often hint at a dousing of oil or grease. The source of the oil
or grease > needs to be corrected before installing a new belt. A
V-belt with any of these > conditions should be replaced as soon as
possible. On serpentine belts, > inspect the belt closely for any cracks
in the ribbed area. Also check the > backside of the belt for grooves,
fraying, or splitting. Although random > cracks across the ribs are a
sign of normal belt wear and don?t mean the belt > will fail
immediately, it?s a good idea to replace the belt the next
time your > car is serviced. >
"""
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