Return-Path: Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 755525 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:23:19 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.164; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.69]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704F9364209 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164]) by filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.69]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10024-10-29 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-89-39.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.89.39]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD12E36439E for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <421C1312.2070000@frontiernet.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:22:26 -0600 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Using "conventional" aircraft ignition switches.. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0508-1, 02/22/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net On a BAD day, 20 amps would seriously lengthen the time you could fly on your battery, which after all is the object of the exercise. Sounds like a GOOD backup alternator, not so good as a redundant alternator ... Jim S. David Staten wrote: > Isn't 20 amps excessive? I mean, the entire engine should run off 20 > amps, not just one pair of coils... > > Dave > > James Maher wrote: > >> Dave, >> I use this switch with Tracy's EC-2 controller. >> The coil disable inputs are wired to this switch and function when >> controller "B" is selected. >> I also have 2 separate 20A breakers ( the push/pull type) that the >> coils and injector pairs get their power from so that they can be >> disabled when working on the engine. >> Jim Maher >> >> */David Staten /* wrote: >> >> Another "fishing trip" to ping the collective masses here. >> >> A little background: >> Typical "aircraft" key ignition switches for controlling magnetos >> operate by grounding out the mag to "disable" it. The commonly >> seen configuation is something that has OFF, L, R, BOTH and a >> START position.. On the L setting for Left Magneto, the right mag >> is actually grounded/disabled and vice versa for the R position. >> In addition, in some installations, the switch also disables the >> right mag for starting if the aircraft has a "retarded" mag on >> the left side. >> >> I am curious about the following switch: >> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/ignitionswitchkit.php >> >> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/ignitionswitchkit.php >> >> Wiring diagrams available at the link. >> >> >> I am wondering if anyone has hands on experience with these sorts >> of switches (from a wiring standpoint.. >> >> Does anyone know if this switch is reasonably/easily adaptable to >> selecting individual coil banks such as for "trailing" and >> "leading" when used in conjunction with an EC 2 setup? >> >> Is the ground terminal on this switch connected to the entire >> switch chassis or is it an isolated terminal ONLY used for >> grounding the mags (and if its isolated, could it safely be used >> as a low current "HOT" instead to power a coil relay? Or are >> there relays (which in turn control the coil packs) that can be >> reasonably set to open/disconnect when placed to ground? Or would >> having a relay with a ground trigger result in undesireable >> current flow through the switch or relay? I assume an Ignition >> Master switch to de-energize the whole thing would be needed in >> that case >> >> If useable, the implications would be great: A key switch for >> "security appearance" (A.K.A.. the New Jersey dual lock rule). >> Key-cycled control of both coils, AND a start switch all in one. >> >> The only DISADVANTAGE that I see is the difficulty in cranking >> the engine with the ignition OFF for whatever reason: preoiling, >> clearing a flood, priming etc. I would assume that the COILS >> circuit breaker would need to be pulled in that event. >> >> Dave >>