Return-Path: Received: from corpprd-pxy2.canfor.ca ([198.162.160.3] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 753463 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:48:39 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.162.160.3; envelope-from=Steve.Bartrim@canfor.com Received: from canformail1.canfor.ca (canformail1.canfor.ca [199.60.193.29]) by corpprd-pxy2.canfor.ca (Build 103 8.9.3p2/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09716 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:47:54 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: 2nd battery Re: Amps required to run engine & amp- hours available Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:47:53 -0800 Message-ID: <091A2D42FAF91A41B84750D269FC97E72B3118@canformail1.canfor.ca> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: 2nd battery Re: Amps required to run engine & amp- hours available Thread-Index: AcUYU8t6W6dZbyaNTdOUM0vL3Xtp2QAGfq6A From: "Bartrim, Todd" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" I'd like to see this idea succeed, as while I'd love to have a small PM alternator as a back-up, I won't do it if it is belt driven at the same end as the main alt. A few years back, somebody on the list was considering fabricating a small pulley to fit in between the flex plate on the PSRU end of the engine. This would obviously be a real pain to change this belt, but would be IMO much better than having to belts driven by the front pulley. I don't know if anything ever came of this. Another suggestion was made to use the stator from a 2-stroke engine, mounted directly around the shaft. Since I just happened to have a spare one for my snowmobile from years ago, I looked into this, but decided that it was just way too much modifications to make it work. Now they are selling waterpumps that have a built-in alt using this same idea and I can't help but thinking how sweet it would be if I could do this. When I originally looked at the possibility I was considering the front end, but now I'm going to take a long hard look at the possibility of mounting around the shaft at the flex plate. I doubt that there is anywhere near enough room, but it's worth looking into. Todd The alternator that is 80% efficient and is pushing 50A requires just about 1Hp. What I've seen of the gears, unless they're made of pot metal, I don't see how they couldn't be stout enough. I haven't rebuilt my engine yet, so I'm going off drawings (probably not to scale), and measuring the gear on the CAS. I think I calculated the torque at considerably less than 10in.lb., but I'd have to find the napkin that I calculated that out on 8*)