Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 750981 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:50:30 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.167; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.73]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9C3581A4 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 03:49:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) by filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.73]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27673-06-27 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 03:49:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-68-72.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.68.72]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D57358171 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2005 03:49:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <421808CC.10608@frontiernet.net> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:49:32 -0600 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 2nd battery Re: Amps required to run engine & amp- hours available References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0507-4, 02/18/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter06.roc.ny.frontiernet.net YES. Mark R Steitle wrote: >Assuming you lose your alternator belt, won't battery-only operation last much longer than not having any water circulation? (unless you are equipped with EWP) > >Mark S. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Jim Sower >Sent: Fri 2/18/2005 11:58 PM >To: Rotary motors in aircraft >Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2nd battery Re: Amps required to run engine & amp- hours available > ><... If the 2nd alt. is big enough to carry essential loads, it can be >lighter ...> > >The problem is that for it to be a true /backup/ and not merely >/redundant/, you would have to figure out a way to drive it - preferably >at the other end of the engine. Two alternators driven by the same belt >(or belts anywhere near each other) doesn't solve much. Particularly in >light of the fact that belt failures probably outnumber electrical >failures, and when a belt fails you don't know /what/ it's going to >cascade into. > >Where you gonna put the 2nd alt? ... Jim S. > > >Charlie England wrote: > > > >>jbker@juno.com wrote: >> >> >> >>>Now THAT'S encouraging ... but I think I'll tote a spare anyway .. >>>what's 12#? ... Jim S. >>>--------------------------------- >>> >>>Jim, I'm torn between 2nd battery. Tracy had one for a while, but no >>>longer and don't believe ED had one. Flying over the lower 48 without >>>a 2nd battery once I'm past 40 hours does not bother me, but think I >>>will have the option to run the 2nd one anytime I'm over water >>>flights (a long time from now!) or doing another flight to Alaska. >>> >>>Bernie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>For those that don't follow the Matronics Aeroelectic list, the >>moderator now recommends 2 alternators and only one battery, replaced >>at each annual inspection. His logic is that modern batteries like the >>Hawker, etc. are so reliable that you aren't any more likely to lose a >>battery *in flight* than a wing while alternators aren't quite that >>good. If the 2nd alt. is big enough to carry essential loads, it can >>be lighter than even the 12 lb battery & your endurance isn't battery >>limited. >> >>A lot tougher to install, though. >> >>Charlie >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>> >>>> >> >> > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >>>