Return-Path: Received: from rokland5.awh.us ([67.15.10.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP-TLS id 750401 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:29:11 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.15.10.31; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from bgp01386375bgs.brodwy01.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.160.229]:32986 helo=quail) by rokland5.awh.us with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D2YP3-0005Pv-1j for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:28:25 -0600 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:28:17 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: 2nd battery Re: Amps required to run engine & amp- hours available Message-Id: <20050219102817.3c5b4537.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.2 (GTK+ 2.4.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rokland5.awh.us X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Wasn't someone talking about using the injector pump drive to drive a backup alternator? I will opt for the backup battery until I find a good solution for a second alternator. Bob White On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:58:57 -0600 Jim Sower wrote: > <... If the 2nd alt. is big enough to carry essential loads, it can be > lighter ...> > > The problem is that for it to be a true /backup/ and not merely > /redundant/, you would have to figure out a way to drive it - preferably > at the other end of the engine. Two alternators driven by the same belt > (or belts anywhere near each other) doesn't solve much. Particularly in > light of the fact that belt failures probably outnumber electrical > failures, and when a belt fails you don't know /what/ it's going to > cascade into. > > Where you gonna put the 2nd alt? ... Jim S. > > > Charlie England wrote: > > > jbker@juno.com wrote: > > > >> Now THAT'S encouraging ... but I think I'll tote a spare anyway .. > >> what's 12#? ... Jim S. > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> Jim, I'm torn between 2nd battery. Tracy had one for a while, but no > >> longer and don't believe ED had one. Flying over the lower 48 without > >> a 2nd battery once I'm past 40 hours does not bother me, but think I > >> will have the option to run the 2nd one anytime I'm over water > >> flights (a long time from now!) or doing another flight to Alaska. > >> > >> Bernie > >> > >> > > > > For those that don't follow the Matronics Aeroelectic list, the > > moderator now recommends 2 alternators and only one battery, replaced > > at each annual inspection. His logic is that modern batteries like the > > Hawker, etc. are so reliable that you aren't any more likely to lose a > > battery *in flight* than a wing while alternators aren't quite that > > good. If the 2nd alt. is big enough to carry essential loads, it can > > be lighter than even the 12 lb battery & your endurance isn't battery > > limited. > > > > A lot tougher to install, though. > > > > Charlie > > > > > > > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >> > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (real soon)