Return-Path: Received: from [129.116.87.170] (HELO MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 750205 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 06:39:23 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=129.116.87.170; envelope-from=mark.steitle@austin.utexas.edu X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C51677.8CB29C17" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: 2nd battery Re: Amps required to run engine & amp- hours available Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:36:28 -0600 Message-ID: <87DBA06C9A5CB84B80439BA09D86E69E6CB5E1@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <87DBA06C9A5CB84B80439BA09D86E69E6CB5E1@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu> Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: 2nd battery Re: Amps required to run engine & amp- hours available Thread-Index: AcUWSDvTMFgpO4fOTm2l3TTGOC0FRgALwRie From: "Mark R Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C51677.8CB29C17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Assuming you lose your alternator belt, won't battery-only operation = last much longer than not having any water circulation? (unless you are = equipped with EWP) Mark S. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Jim Sower Sent: Fri 2/18/2005 11:58 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2nd battery Re: Amps required to run engine & = amp- hours available =20 <... If the 2nd alt. is big enough to carry essential loads, it can be=20 lighter ...> The problem is that for it to be a true /backup/ and not merely=20 /redundant/, you would have to figure out a way to drive it - preferably = at the other end of the engine. Two alternators driven by the same belt = (or belts anywhere near each other) doesn't solve much. Particularly in = light of the fact that belt failures probably outnumber electrical=20 failures, and when a belt fails you don't know /what/ it's going to=20 cascade into. Where you gonna put the 2nd alt? ... Jim S. Charlie England wrote: > jbker@juno.com wrote: > >> Now THAT'S encouraging ... but I think I'll tote a spare anyway ..=20 >> what's 12#? ... Jim S. >> --------------------------------- >> >> Jim, I'm torn between 2nd battery. Tracy had one for a while, but no=20 >> longer and don't believe ED had one. Flying over the lower 48 without = >> a 2nd battery once I'm past 40 hours does not bother me, but think I=20 >> will have the option to run the 2nd one anytime I'm over water=20 >> flights (a long time from now!) or doing another flight to Alaska. >> >> Bernie >> =20 >> > > For those that don't follow the Matronics Aeroelectic list, the=20 > moderator now recommends 2 alternators and only one battery, replaced=20 > at each annual inspection. His logic is that modern batteries like the = > Hawker, etc. are so reliable that you aren't any more likely to lose a = > battery *in flight* than a wing while alternators aren't quite that=20 > good. 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