Return-Path: Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([66.163.170.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with SMTP id 743868 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:20:28 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.170.81; envelope-from=dcarter@datarecall.net Received: from unknown (HELO Davidscmptr) (dcarter11@sbcglobal.net@64.219.115.122 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2005 04:19:44 -0000 Message-ID: <08b701c51571$12217f00$6401a8c0@Davidscmptr> Reply-To: "David Carter" From: "David Carter" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Short motor runs, was I found the power Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:19:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 From: Tom To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Short motor runs, was I found the power Very good to hear Paul you found some power. However, I thought a person would risk getting apex seals stuck if you ran the motor for short runs, like less than 5 minutes? I forgot the reasoning behind it. Then comes out the bottle transmission fluid or that other liquid and procedure for creating great clouds of smoke, per previous discussions a few months back. Tom - - - - David comments: About "short runs, like less than 5 minutes. . ." I was in the Mazda dealership's maintenance bay last Christmas season and an RX-8 was towed into the shop - "Won't start". - Service Tech said any engine run that doesn't get the car up to "operatinig temperature" will result in no start next time you try. They have a whole procedure to go through to get it started. - I didn't get any info on "why" and "how". -I suspect what I heard was only related to the "automobile installation" with all its computer software and sensor stuff as installed and designed for the RX-8. Don't know if any of that applies to the basic mechanical engine assembly that we use in our aircraft with after-market ECU. Re: "Then comes out the bottle transmission fluid or that other liquid and procedure for creating great clouds of smoke, per previous discussions a few months back.". . . . Leon down under sent an e-mail 2 or 3 years ago saying he'd put an external tank with brake fluid and something else in it plumbed to the intake manifold, and would "fog" the engine for a few moments before shutdown to "coat rotors and seals" with wet lubricant/compression enhancer to make the "next start" easier. I can't find that e-mail - Leon, can you send your idea again? David