Return-Path: Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.73] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP id 742226 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:48:36 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.73; envelope-from=sqpilot@bellsouth.net Received: from [216.78.114.71] by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050217014750.BJOY2148.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[216.78.114.71]> for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:47:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [265.8.8]); Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:47:34 -0600 Message-ID: <00c301c51492$a6039300$28724ed8@paul52u7f5qyav> From: "Paul" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad day at the airport Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:47:33 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-4213F7B76A21=======" --=======AVGMAIL-4213F7B76A21======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C51460.5B3E4270" ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C51460.5B3E4270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You're a fine person, Mark. I also am pleased when I am able to help a = fellow aviation enthusiast. Paul Conner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:32 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad day at the airport Paul, No big deal. I'm happy to be able to give it to someone that can use = it. You can repay me with a ride in your SQ2000 (once you get the kinks = in the fuel system worked out). =20 Mark S. (still looking for the video) =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:06 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad day at the airport =20 Hi, Mark....yes, the brochure arrived today. Thank you so much for = finding and sending it. I would be pleased to reimburse you for your = time and shipping. Please advise off line, and I'll be happy to = reimburse you. There was a lot of info in there that I was not aware = of. Lots of fun looking at it. Thanks again. Paul Conner =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:41 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad day at the airport =20 Paul, That's good to hear. BTW, did you get the brochure on the SQ2000? =20 =20 Mark S. (still looking for the video) Do not archive -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:41 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad day at the airport =20 Hi, Mark....that seems to be the general consensus, and I agree that = it is the most likely cause of the fuel starvation. I ran the aircraft = several times yesterday, and it still ran as smooth as ever. I tried a = couple of aborted takeoffs, and it still ran great. Good acceleration, = nosewheel off the ground by 1200 feet. Unfortunately, until I vent the = sump tank and install firesleeving on my fuel lines, the nosewheel is = the only part of the plane that is going to leave the ground. Will keep = you posted. Thanks again for your input. Paul Conner, off to the = welder ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark R Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:09 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad day at the airport =20 =20 Paul, It looks like the group has focused in on the fuel system, or more = specifically the sump tank as the likely culprit. I suspected you might = have been running mogas. Its my understanding that auto fuel has a much = lower vapor pressure than avgas and is therefore more likely to vapor = lock. =20 =20 Just a SWAG, but I think the engine and related systems got hot = enough to heat the fuel in the fuel rails so that once it passed the = pressure regulator (pressure drop) it started to boil, similar to when = you open a hot soda. With the return fuel going to an unvented tank, = the boiling fuel expanded enough to cause pressure in the header tank so = as to prevent fresh fuel from flowing into the tank. Eventually, the = header tank ran dry and the engine quit. You sure handled the situation = like a pro. Hope I never have to face that scenario. =20 Mark S.=20 =20 =20 =20 Hi, Mark...my humblest appologies for taking so long to respond. = I am whittling down the 200 plus messages in my inbox. I was using auto = fuel (regular). I have a fuel return line and it goes to the top of my = aluminum sump tank that is located on the cool side of the firewall = (inside the cabin, behind the rear seat). The return line is -8 in size. = Hope this helps. Paul Conner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: = 2/10/2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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You're a fine person, Mark.  I = also am pleased=20 when I am able to help a fellow aviation enthusiast.   Paul=20 Conner
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark R Steitle =
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, = 2005 7:32=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad = day at the=20 airport

Paul,

No big = deal. =20 I=92m happy to be able to give it to someone that can use it.  = You can=20 repay me with a ride in your SQ2000 (once you get the kinks in the = fuel system=20 worked out).

 

Mark=20 S.

(still = looking for=20 the video) 

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, = 2005 9:06=20 PM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad = day at the=20 airport

 

Hi, Mark....yes, the = brochure=20 arrived today.  Thank you so much for finding and sending it. I = would be=20 pleased to reimburse you for your time and shipping. Please advise off = line,=20 and I'll be happy to reimburse you.  There was a lot of info in = there=20 that I was not aware of. Lots of fun looking at it.  Thanks = again. =20 Paul Conner

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

From: Mark R Steitle=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent:=20 Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:41 = AM

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Bad day at the = airport

 

Paul,

That=92s = good to=20 hear.  BTW, did you get the brochure on the SQ2000? =20

 

Mark=20 S.

(still = looking for=20 the video)

Do not=20 archive

From:=20 Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, = 2005 6:41=20 AM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Bad = day at the=20 airport

 

Hi, Mark....that seems = to be the=20 general consensus, and I agree that it is the most likely cause of = the fuel=20 starvation.  I ran the aircraft several times yesterday, and it = still=20 ran as smooth as ever.  I tried a couple of aborted takeoffs, = and it=20 still ran great. Good acceleration, nosewheel off the ground by 1200 = feet.  Unfortunately, until I vent the sump tank and install=20 firesleeving on my fuel lines, the nosewheel is the only part of the = plane=20 that is going to leave the ground.  Will keep you posted.  = Thanks=20 again for your input.  Paul Conner, off to the=20 welder

----- Original = Message -----=20

From: Mark R Steitle=20

To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent:=20 Monday, February 14, 2005 10:09 = AM

Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Bad day at the = airport

 

 

Paul,

It = looks like the=20 group has focused in on the fuel system, or more specifically the = sump=20 tank as the likely culprit.  I suspected you might have been = running=20 mogas.  Its my understanding that auto fuel has a much lower = vapor=20 pressure than avgas and is therefore more likely to vapor = lock. =20

 

Just a = SWAG, but=20 I think the engine and related systems got hot enough to heat the = fuel in=20 the fuel rails so that once it passed the pressure regulator = (pressure=20 drop) it started to boil, similar to when you open a hot = soda.  With=20 the return fuel going to an unvented tank, the boiling fuel = expanded=20 enough to cause pressure in the header tank so as to prevent fresh = fuel=20 from flowing into the tank.  Eventually, the header tank ran = dry and=20 the engine quit.  You sure handled the situation like a pro.=20  Hope I never have to face that=20 scenario.

 

Mark S. =

 

 =20

 

Hi, Mark...my = humblest=20 appologies for taking so long to respond.  I am whittling = down the=20 200 plus messages in my inbox.  I was using auto fuel = (regular). I=20 have a fuel return line and it goes to the top of my aluminum sump = tank=20 that is located on the cool side of the firewall (inside the = cabin, behind=20 the rear seat). The return line is -8 in size.  Hope this=20 helps.  Paul Conner

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