Return-Path: Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP id 741489 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:42:24 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.166; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.70]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46812358463 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166]) by filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32723-40-78 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (67-137-75-55.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net [67.137.75.55]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961D3358067 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <421377BB.9090509@frontiernet.net> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:41:31 -0600 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Vapor Lock References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0507-1, 02/16/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net <... HP pumps are capable of moving LOTS more fuel than a Facet pump ... HP pumps would be drawing fuel through the Facet pump ... because the Facet can't keep up ...> You're right. I hadn't thought of that. Facet pumps deliver 30 gph. I'll check how much my HP pumps are putting out. Wonder if Facet delivers more at lower head pressure, objective being to push fuel through filter and plumbing so there's less chance of pressure drop that could cause the fuel to vaporize. Back to the drawing board ... maybe ... Jim S. Marvin Kaye wrote: > Jim Sower wrote: > > """ > I have a canard, but I will have a Facet pump near (and below) the > wing tanks > to PUSH the fuel through the filter and fuel flow transducer. I don't > want > the HP pumps to SUCK through the filters and etc. for fear of > vaporizing the > fuel. > """ > > This doesn't make any sense to me, but perhaps I'm missing something. > The HP pumps are capable of moving LOTS more fuel than a Facet pump. > Consequently, it seems to me that the HP pumps would actually be > drawing fuel through the Facet pump when they're switched on, simply > because the Facet can't keep up with what's being drawn out of the > sump tank by them. Additionally, a return system needs 2 flow > transducers, one for the feed line and one for the return... then the > display instrument's electronics deduct the return flow from the feed > flow to properly calculate actual through-the-injectors instantaneous > flow data. (The EI fuel flow instrument uses an FFDM-1 (fuel flow > differential module) to do the job, GRT EIS does it itself, as do > other flow instruments with both feed and return inputs.) > > As long as the filters are rated to flow as much fuel as the HP pumps > are capable of pushing I don't see that (vapoization) as an issue. > The filter elements do need to be kept clean, and are a > replace-at-annual item. > > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > >