Return-Path: Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.71] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP id 729094 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:09:59 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.71; envelope-from=potato@bellsouth.net Received: from main ([68.214.100.19]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050215020912.RGQR2276.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@main> for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:09:12 -0500 From: "potato" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Satellite Internet - WAS: Bellsouth test Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:09:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AcUS9q/DwHxqEir1Q86CDIygfPJl7gAC3mGQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20050215020912.RGQR2276.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@main> Not to carry on too long about this non-rotary topic but I wanted to quickly throw in my experience with DirectPC. Had and got rid of it during the first 30 days due to bad customer service. Never sent or received the first byte over it! My experience was worst than most as far as I can figure. One caution, read their fair access policy (FAP)! I'm now on Bellsouth DSL. Upgraded to the premium level and I consistently clock speeds greater than 2 meg/sec. I know...all the debate about the accuracy of the clocking programs.... All that said I can describe the response of my connection as "right now". Not bad for twisted pair buried down a tractor path! Dean Head Brooksville FL -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Charlie England Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 7:38 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Satellite Internet - WAS: Bellsouth test We have a company near me (tower is ~15 miles away) I've been begging to come out for a site survey. They aren't very interested because they focus on businesses but speed is great, installation is only $100 & the monthly fee is lower than DirecPC. If DirecPC was 2way high speed & consistent I'd pay the money, but many folks I've talked to say speeds are often down in the 100k range & very inconsistent, with rain fade, the slow upload issue & other problems. Charlie Jack Beale wrote: > J, > > I looked into Internet via a radio-transponder modem. In > mountainous areas it's great and can go out quite a few miles. As I > remember it, I think that six miles is about the outer limit. The > problems are: > > 1. Trees & Foliage - they totally block the signal. > 2. Buildings - same as #1 > 3. Smog, Fog, Rain & Smoke - they attenuate the signal. > 4. It's a line-of-sight system - it the antennas can't "see" each > other, there's no connect. > 5. In flat terrain (like Florida), with lots of tall trees, it's > tough to get a signal without a rather high antenna. > > That said, if you can get a signal, it's a great system and it > provides high-speed, two-way service . A client of mine has one at > his office, and I've used it quite a bit. It's as transparent as the > cable system; and, I'd estimate it's as fast as cable - perhaps a > little faster. I've heard that you can get about 1.5 Mb/s. > > GL > > Jack Beale > jack.beale@att.net > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Sower > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:07 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Satellite Internet - WAS: Bellsouth test > > I'm waiting for wireless that will reach out the same 5 kliks from the > station as DSL. Sadly, where I live, cable and DSL only arrived the > last year or two. > > Jack Beale wrote: > > > R, > > > > I have the DirecWay satellite Internet service, and have for about > > two years. I also continually monitor the upload/download speeds, so > > have some understanding of how well it works. > > > > DSL speed is usually 350,000 b/s (/0.3 Mb/s/) in either > > direction. Cable is variable, but generally will provide 1.2 Mb/s, > > unless you happen to live in a neighborhood where cable use is very > > high. In that case, your bandwidth will be limited by your neighbors > > use of the cable. > > > > Satellite is fast on download, but slow to upload. > > > > If you average-out the satellite download speeds, it's about 1 to > > 1.2 Mb/s. I've seen it vary from zero to 4 Mb/s - it's a very > > "saw-toothed" type of connection. Rather than being a steady 1.2 Mb/s > > connection the graph shows a lot of variation during any download > > session. As I said, though, it's about 1 Mb/s average. > > > > Uploads, on the other hand are limited to about 64 Kb/s. This is > > quite slow and can be a big problem if you try to upload large graphic > > files. > > > > Here, in this area, cable and DSL are (/currently/) > non-existent.... > > > > Jack Beale > > jack.beale@att.net > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Russell Duffy > > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2005 12:28 AM > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Bellsouth test > > > > Unfortunately, I can't find my satellite dish....The hurricane removed > > it. Paul Conner > > > > Call your insurance company. They have a new one for you :-) > > > > I've never heard anyone complain about the more recent DTV internet, > > but I expect that it isn't as fast as a good DSL or Cable > > connection. It all boils down to how much it's worth to you. > > Internet is VERY important to me, and I'd pay whatever it cost to get > > a good connection. If you want to spend your money on something less > > important, like say.... food, go ahead :-) > > > > BTW, Bellsouth might be behaving now, since it doesn't seem like I'm > > getting all the posts at one time like before, so I'll see if this > > shows up in a timely fashion. > > > > Rusty (always on, as it should be) > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html __________ NOD32 1.998 (20050212) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com