Return-Path: Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.72] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP id 729003 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:38:32 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.72; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [209.215.61.130] by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20050215003740.VAUD2021.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[209.215.61.130]> for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:37:40 -0500 Message-ID: <42114455.5000509@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:37:41 -0600 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Satellite Internet - WAS: Bellsouth test References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have a company near me (tower is ~15 miles away) I've been begging to come out for a site survey. They aren't very interested because they focus on businesses but speed is great, installation is only $100 & the monthly fee is lower than DirecPC. If DirecPC was 2way high speed & consistent I'd pay the money, but many folks I've talked to say speeds are often down in the 100k range & very inconsistent, with rain fade, the slow upload issue & other problems. Charlie Jack Beale wrote: > J, > > I looked into Internet via a radio-transponder modem. In > mountainous areas it's great and can go out quite a few miles. As I > remember it, I think that six miles is about the outer limit. The > problems are: > > 1. Trees & Foliage - they totally block the signal. > 2. Buildings - same as #1 > 3. Smog, Fog, Rain & Smoke - they attenuate the signal. > 4. It's a line-of-sight system - it the antennas can't "see" each > other, there's no connect. > 5. In flat terrain (like Florida), with lots of tall trees, it's > tough to get a signal without a rather high antenna. > > That said, if you can get a signal, it's a great system and it > provides high-speed, two-way service . A client of mine has one at > his office, and I've used it quite a bit. It's as transparent as the > cable system; and, I'd estimate it's as fast as cable - perhaps a > little faster. I've heard that you can get about 1.5 Mb/s. > > GL > > Jack Beale > jack.beale@att.net > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Sower > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:07 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Satellite Internet - WAS: Bellsouth test > > I'm waiting for wireless that will reach out the same 5 kliks from the > station as DSL. Sadly, where I live, cable and DSL only arrived the > last year or two. > > Jack Beale wrote: > > > R, > > > > I have the DirecWay satellite Internet service, and have for about > > two years. I also continually monitor the upload/download speeds, so > > have some understanding of how well it works. > > > > DSL speed is usually 350,000 b/s (/0.3 Mb/s/) in either > > direction. Cable is variable, but generally will provide 1.2 Mb/s, > > unless you happen to live in a neighborhood where cable use is very > > high. In that case, your bandwidth will be limited by your neighbors > > use of the cable. > > > > Satellite is fast on download, but slow to upload. > > > > If you average-out the satellite download speeds, it's about 1 to > > 1.2 Mb/s. I've seen it vary from zero to 4 Mb/s - it's a very > > "saw-toothed" type of connection. Rather than being a steady 1.2 Mb/s > > connection the graph shows a lot of variation during any download > > session. As I said, though, it's about 1 Mb/s average. > > > > Uploads, on the other hand are limited to about 64 Kb/s. This is > > quite slow and can be a big problem if you try to upload large graphic > > files. > > > > Here, in this area, cable and DSL are (/currently/) > non-existent.... > > > > Jack Beale > > jack.beale@att.net > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Russell Duffy > > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2005 12:28 AM > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Bellsouth test > > > > Unfortunately, I can't find my satellite dish....The hurricane removed > > it. Paul Conner > > > > Call your insurance company. They have a new one for you :-) > > > > I've never heard anyone complain about the more recent DTV internet, > > but I expect that it isn't as fast as a good DSL or Cable > > connection. It all boils down to how much it's worth to you. > > Internet is VERY important to me, and I'd pay whatever it cost to get > > a good connection. If you want to spend your money on something less > > important, like say.... food, go ahead :-) > > > > BTW, Bellsouth might be behaving now, since it doesn't seem like I'm > > getting all the posts at one time like before, so I'll see if this > > shows up in a timely fashion. > > > > Rusty (always on, as it should be) > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html