Return-Path: Received: from a34-mta01.direcway.com ([66.82.4.90] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP id 728805 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:37:25 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.82.4.90; envelope-from=jackbeale@direcpc.com Received: from jack (dpc691920007.direcpc.com [69.19.20.7]) by a34-mta01.direcway.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <0IBX002UO80JE6@a34-mta01.direcway.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:36:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:32:45 -0500 From: Jack Beale Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Satellite Internet - WAS: Bellsouth test To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-id: <004901c512dd$3d7f6a40$2619050a@jack> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_10BcBZpFcWDZHJT95E06GQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_10BcBZpFcWDZHJT95E06GQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT J, I looked into Internet via a radio-transponder modem. In mountainous areas it's great and can go out quite a few miles. As I remember it, I think that six miles is about the outer limit. The problems are: 1.. Trees & Foliage - they totally block the signal. 2.. Buildings - same as #1 3.. Smog, Fog, Rain & Smoke - they attenuate the signal. 4.. It's a line-of-sight system - it the antennas can't "see" each other, there's no connect. 5.. In flat terrain (like Florida), with lots of tall trees, it's tough to get a signal without a rather high antenna. That said, if you can get a signal, it's a great system and it provides high-speed, two-way service . A client of mine has one at his office, and I've used it quite a bit. It's as transparent as the cable system; and, I'd estimate it's as fast as cable - perhaps a little faster. I've heard that you can get about 1.5 Mb/s. GL Jack Beale jack.beale@att.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Sower To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Satellite Internet - WAS: Bellsouth test I'm waiting for wireless that will reach out the same 5 kliks from the station as DSL. Sadly, where I live, cable and DSL only arrived the last year or two. Jack Beale wrote: > R, > > I have the DirecWay satellite Internet service, and have for about > two years. I also continually monitor the upload/download speeds, so > have some understanding of how well it works. > > DSL speed is usually 350,000 b/s (/0.3 Mb/s/) in either > direction. Cable is variable, but generally will provide 1.2 Mb/s, > unless you happen to live in a neighborhood where cable use is very > high. In that case, your bandwidth will be limited by your neighbors > use of the cable. > > Satellite is fast on download, but slow to upload. > > If you average-out the satellite download speeds, it's about 1 to > 1.2 Mb/s. I've seen it vary from zero to 4 Mb/s - it's a very > "saw-toothed" type of connection. Rather than being a steady 1.2 Mb/s > connection the graph shows a lot of variation during any download > session. As I said, though, it's about 1 Mb/s average. > > Uploads, on the other hand are limited to about 64 Kb/s. This is > quite slow and can be a big problem if you try to upload large graphic > files. > > Here, in this area, cable and DSL are (/currently/) non-existent.... > > Jack Beale > jack.beale@att.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Russell Duffy > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2005 12:28 AM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Bellsouth test > > Unfortunately, I can't find my satellite dish....The hurricane removed > it. Paul Conner > > Call your insurance company. They have a new one for you :-) > > I've never heard anyone complain about the more recent DTV internet, > but I expect that it isn't as fast as a good DSL or Cable > connection. It all boils down to how much it's worth to you. > Internet is VERY important to me, and I'd pay whatever it cost to get > a good connection. If you want to spend your money on something less > important, like say.... food, go ahead :-) > > BTW, Bellsouth might be behaving now, since it doesn't seem like I'm > getting all the posts at one time like before, so I'll see if this > shows up in a timely fashion. > > Rusty (always on, as it should be) >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html --Boundary_(ID_10BcBZpFcWDZHJT95E06GQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
J,
 
    I looked into Internet via a radio-transponder modem.  In mountainous areas it's great and can go out quite a few miles.  As I remember it, I think that six miles is about the outer limit.  The problems are:
  1. Trees & Foliage - they totally block the signal.
  2. Buildings - same as #1
  3. Smog, Fog, Rain & Smoke - they attenuate the signal.
  4. It's a line-of-sight system - it the antennas can't "see" each other, there's no connect.
  5. In flat terrain (like Florida), with lots of tall trees, it's tough to get a signal without a rather high antenna.
    That said, if you can get a signal, it's a great system and it provides high-speed, two-way service .  A client of mine has one at his office, and I've used it quite a bit.  It's as transparent as the cable system; and, I'd estimate it's as fast as cable - perhaps a little faster.  I've heard that you can get about 1.5 Mb/s.
 
    GL
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Sower
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:07 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Satellite Internet - WAS: Bellsouth test

I'm waiting for wireless that will reach out the same 5 kliks from the
station as DSL.  Sadly, where I live, cable and DSL only arrived the
last year or two.

Jack Beale wrote:

> R,
> 
>     I have the DirecWay satellite Internet service, and have for about
> two years.  I also continually monitor the upload/download speeds, so
> have some understanding of how well it works.
> 
>     DSL speed is usually 350,000 b/s (/0.3 Mb/s/) in either
> direction.  Cable is variable, but generally will provide 1.2 Mb/s,
> unless you happen to live in a neighborhood where cable use is very
> high.  In that case, your bandwidth will be limited by your neighbors
> use of the cable.
> 
>     Satellite is fast on download, but slow to upload.
> 
>     If you average-out the satellite download speeds, it's about 1 to
> 1.2 Mb/s.  I've seen it vary from zero to 4 Mb/s - it's a very
> "saw-toothed" type of connection.  Rather than being a steady 1.2 Mb/s
> connection the graph shows a lot of variation during any download
> session.  As I said, though, it's about 1 Mb/s average.
> 
>     Uploads, on the other hand are limited to about 64 Kb/s.  This is
> quite slow and can be a big problem if you try to upload large graphic
> files.
> 
>     Here, in this area, cable and DSL are (/currently/) non-existent....
> 
> Jack Beale
> jack.beale@att.net <mailto:jack.beale@att.net>
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> <http://home.att.net/%7Ejack.beale/computerguy.htm>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Russell Duffy <mailto:13brv3@bellsouth.net>
> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2005 12:28 AM
> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Bellsouth test
>
> Unfortunately, I can't find my satellite dish....The hurricane removed
> it.  Paul Conner
> 
> Call your insurance company.  They have a new one for you :-)  
> 
> I've never heard anyone complain about the more recent DTV internet,
> but I expect that it isn't as fast as a good DSL or Cable
> connection.  It all boils down to how much it's worth to you. 
> Internet is VERY important to me, and I'd pay whatever it cost to get
> a good connection.  If you want to spend your money on something less
> important, like say.... food, go ahead :-) 
> 
> BTW, Bellsouth might be behaving now, since it doesn't seem like I'm
> getting all the posts at one time like before, so I'll see if this
> shows up in a timely fashion. 
> 
> Rusty (always on, as it should be)


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