Return-Path: Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 660030 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 07:40:42 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.157.36; envelope-from=Lehanover@aol.com Received: from Lehanover@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.9a.1f86ee83 (4362) for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 07:40:09 -0500 (EST) From: Lehanover@aol.com Message-ID: <9a.1f86ee83.2f3618a9@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 07:40:09 EST Subject: Filter To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 I like Lynn Hanover's take on Fram... Friends don't let friends use Fram. Mark S. >> Years ago, I worked for the Federal Government in a technical position. Sales people would stop by trying to sell anything from soup to nuts. I had noticed that when visiting various parts stores that there would be a Wix filter display on the counter. It was two filters cut open with the guts loose inside so you could look at them. I asked one of the filter salesmen about that display, and as if by magic one appeared on my desk. I only gave it away when I retired last year. One filter was the Fram PH8a, the other was the Wix cross part number. Ford style filters that nearly all remote stands are built to take. The Fram had 104 square inches of media with paper end caps and the seat spring was a bent piece of sheet metal. The metal doubler at the top was square and did not support the gasket all of the way around the top. The Wix (A division of Dana Corp.) had 416 square inches of media with metal end caps. The seat spring was a big spring. The top doubler was the same size as the top. The seat spring (my term) holds the element tight against the top gasket to maintain a good seal. Both elements (all in general) flow outside in, and so have a metal center tube to prevent element collapse. I no longer have the spec sheets but if I remember correctly, the Wix had a much higher burst strength, low micronic rating, and lower pressure drop (delta "P") loaded and new. Wix and Champion build most of the aftermarket name filters (for those who think Kmart had a filter plant somewhere). When you look at a filter book, even the Wix book, it looks as though that company makes a huge number of filters for every application on earth. This is not the case. They make the stuff they are good at making and have contracts with other manufacturers to label for the stuff they don't make. So if a buyer specifies origin inspection (Inspect where manufactured) you might be in a Facet plant looking at a Wix fuel filter. Get it? Facet makes great fuel filters and water separators, and high tech aviation elements, and they make them for many other companies to fill their catalogs. Same with most of the big names. They will also make a spec filter for your company. If you order a couple of hundred thousand pieces. Put them in your box, and ship them to your warehouse. Lynn E. Hanover