Return-Path: Received: from email2k3.itlnet.net ([64.19.112.12] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 659791 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:45:51 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.19.112.12; envelope-from=jwvoto@itlnet.net Received: from rav.itlnet.net (unverified [192.168.10.149]) by itlnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.1.17) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:45:21 -0600 Received: from JWVOTO (unverified [64.19.116.224]) by itlnet.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.1.17) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:45:19 -0600 Message-ID: <006f01c50b35$8b14de20$e0741340@JWVOTO> From: "Wendell Voto" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Filters Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:47:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > Wendell Voto wrote: > > > I used and still have one of thoes tissue paper filters. It worked great. > > Only reason for not using it now is there is no room in modern car > > engine compartments to mount this by-pass filter. Did not change oil > > in car I used it on, just changed filter and added the quart lost when > > changing paper. > > My impression of oil filters is that they will only hold the "big > > stuff" that might block passages but do little to really help keep oil > > clean, hence change oil to get dirt out. FWIW > > Wendell > > > The experts from the oil companies that I listened to at SunNFun, > indicated that a big part of the oils job was to buffer acids. The > acids are caused by water reacting with byproducts of the combustion > events. Sulfuric compounds mostly. There's always some acid, but a > regularly used engine will have less (the water is constantly being > boiled off). Tiny particles, too small for the filter to catch, can be > held in suspension and never cause an appreciable amount of corrosion, > IF the oil is changed when it's ability to buffer the acids has been > used up. The counter-intuitive part was that a weekender engine uses up > the buffers FASTER than a busy trainer, as the weekenders and hanger > queens don't run enough to constantly boil the water off. The > disturbing part is that the oil can be as clear as sulfuric acid, and be > doing your engine a world of hurt. > > Of course, this comes straight from the mouth of the horse that's trying > to sell you some oil 8*) > The advocates of the tissue paper filter claimed that the moisture was removed along with acid producing particles thereby reducing acid damage. All I know is, the car I had it on was still running like almost new when I got rid of it; back when 125K miles was real high mileage. I am temped to put it on the rotary engine but don't want the extra weight but wouldn't be any heavier than the remote filters. Wendell (I'd still change oil once in a while)