Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #16611
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: CCI sandwich mounts.. torque values..
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:48:08 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>, <Dastaten@earthlink.net>
Should have read your post more carefully Dave, could have figured out that you meant the FW bolts. 
 
BTW, a couple of builders have wrung off the AN4 nuts on the RD-1 drive after reading the torque spec in inch-pounds.  Many torque wrenches read out in ft-pounds.   You can probably guess the rest of the story.
 
Tracy
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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: CCI sandwich mounts.. torque values..

Thanks Fred.. and everyone who responded.
 
Sorry I was less than clear in my original post.. Thats what I get for
posting while tired. I was indeed referring to the firewall mounting
hardware with regards to the CCI mount.

I am now beginning to learn "all about AN and MS hardware" from the lady
who owns the aircraft parts store. She visibly winced a few times when I
described that I was helping build a (WINCE) homebuilt and we were
putting an auto engine (WINCE) from Mazda (WINCE) on it..
 
All's well that ends well, though. she took some time to explain the AN
nomenclature regarding the bolt specs so now I know what I am looking
at/for. She also happens to have a BIG torque wrench thats good for 600
ft lbs that she will let me borrow to ensure that the "big nut" is
torqued properly.. She winced a few more times when I described how I
was unable to find a large enough torque wrench at reasonable cost, nor
a torque multiplier, so I described the 5 ft pipe on the end of the 2 ft
breaker bar that I applied an approx 60-70 lbs to on the end (after
practicing some 50-60 lbs pushes..).
 
Seriously she's a nice lady, been in the aviation parts/maintenance
business for 40 years and she just wants to ensure the job is done
right, and safely.
 
Anyhooo... thats all for now,
Dave

CCI wrote:

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> Hi Dave, You want to use the tension-type nut torque values, that is
> for AN 310, 160-190 inch-pounds. Fred, CCI.
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>> The oil pan "sandwich" mounts  for the rotary take 3/8" bolts.. Chris
>> and I had it temporarily mounted using hardware store parts, but we
>> elected to use AN bolts to fit it up for the final/working
>> attachment. 3/8 translates to AN6... and we are looking at about
>> AN6-37 for the bottom and AN6-34 for the top mounting holes (this
>> takes into account the plywood aft bulkhead and stainless
>> overlay/firewall, with some fender washers to distribute the force.
>> I don't have the CCI paperwork handy.. is there a recommended
>> fastener and torque value for use with those mounts?
>> What is an appropriate torque value with AN6 bolts/nuts? I have one
>> reference on hand and want to compare notes. I have the "aviation
>> mechanic handbook" 4th ed by Dale Crane that lists two different
>> torque values: one is "nuts tension torque limits" and is 160-190
>> INCH pounds, but it also lists a "nut shear torque limit" as well of
>> 95-110 INCH pounds.
>> Rather than make a guess here, would someone with the knowledge spell
>> out for me the difference between those two categories?
>> Dave Staten
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