Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #15414
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Engine mounts
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:50:04 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I didn't know about the requirement to replace the lower spacers but I have no technical objections to the S-beam mount other than to pay careful attention to the rear mount requirements as Jerry pointed out.  I have seen Jerry's work before and if the precision on the new spacers is as good as I expect, it should be no problem. 
 
As he also noted, the arrangement of cooling and exhaust systems will be greatly affected by your choice of engine mount style.  Know what you are doing before making the choice. (didn't really need to say that did I?)
 
I would (strongly) not recommend using the redrive adapter plate as the engine mount. 
 
Tracy  (still waiting on my 20B right hand offset CCI engine mount)
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Hey
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:21 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Engine mounts

I do build rotary engine mounts as many of you already know.  It
started out a couple of years ago with the Motor Mount Plate concept. 
That was abandoned  when Bill Schertz invented the beam mount which is
much better in every way. Lighter, stronger, cheaper.   In response to
an inquiry yesterday, I sent the following info, that I would like to
share with every one.   The question was could I supply an engine mount
for the RV6 tri gear.



The short answer is Yes.  The engine mount I build is called an S-beam
(Schertz Beam) mount.  The concept was first developed by Bill Schertz
and was modified by Paul Lamar and others until it evolved into the
present configuration.  The S-beam mount only supports the front of the
engine.  The rear engine support is provided by a adjustable  strut
that runs  from "someplace" on the back of the engine to "someplace" on
the firewall.   The "someplace" varies from plane to plane.  For some
aircraft, such as the Kiss Cruiser that have a plywood firewall,  it is
no problem at all.  For others such as the RV, the sheet metal firewall
may have to be reinforced where the strut attaches.  I say "may"
because it might be possible, in  your case,  to tie into the nose gear
assembly instead of the fire wall.  I do not provide the rear strut as
part of the engine mount package.  It is easy to build.

Another complication is that the starter  has to be relocated from 6
o'clock (on Tracy's drive adaptor plate)  to some other position such
as  3 o'clock.  The reason for this is that the S beam blocks the 6
o'clock position.  If you are planning to put the radiator underneath,
then you probably would want to relocate the starter anyway.  If you
are thinking of using cheek radiators, then moving the starter to
either side may not be  a good idea. Each Installation has to be
evaluated individually.

A third issue is that the S Beam replaces the lower spacers that Tracy
supplies with the drive.   I have not asked for  nor received
permission to do this from Tracy and he may well void the warranty on
the drive. If our positions were reversed that is what I would do.  The
steel  spacers I use with s-beam are precision ground to .5 thousands
of an inch tolerance.  Relocating the starter requires welding an
extension on the drive adaptor plate which I can also do.  Once again
this has not been authorized by Tracy.

If you decide to have me build  the engine mount,  I will need a
physical template of the engine mount attach points on firewall and I
will need to know the distance from the firewall to the face of the
prop flange on Tracy's drive.

The S-beam engine mount was developed to make it easier to put the
radiator under the engine and to fit the exhaust system including
turbos.

The cost, including starter relocation, is $850.00.  A fifty per cent
deposit is required. The balance can be sent when the engine mount is
ready to ship.

Normally it takes about one month to build an engine mount.     Jerry

P.S.  I do not build engine mounts Jan and Feb as the shop is too cold.

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