Return-Path: Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([66.163.168.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with SMTP id 611176 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:27:08 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.168.182; envelope-from=dcarter@datarecall.net Received: from unknown (HELO Davidscmptr) (dcarter11@sbcglobal.net@216.63.104.11 with login) by smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 05:26:36 -0000 Message-ID: <0e7901c4fd1e$45b2abc0$6401a8c0@Davidscmptr> Reply-To: "David Carter" From: "David Carter" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] New discovery... Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:26:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Having lurked on the Aeroelectric List for years, 'Lectric Bob & his Z diagrams use a "Low Voltage" module (LVM) of some sort that turn on a "low valtage light" when alternator fails and voltage drops below "min voltage to charge a battery", something like 13.8v, with voltage regulator set for something just over 14 v so battery gets charged for sure. So, given that "data point", looks like it might be useful for us folks with "computer dependent" engines, which need 9v (for this particular ECU), to fabricate a second LVM (set for 9.1 or 9.3 v) that turns on a light - or voice warning - to tell us "voltage too low to start" (i.e., below ECU minimum voltage required to start). I'd probably put the light close to the starter switch. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bulent Aliev" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] New discovery... > For some time I was so proud my engine would start right away. The last time > on Friday night I started it few times and everything was fine. Came back > this morning and tried to start it again, no joy? For hours I tried > everything, plugs, coils injectors, everything was fine. Kept cranking, > fired once for a second and died again. Even starting spray didn't do it. > The last thing (lunch time) I measured the voltage while cranking and it was > 9V. Ahaaa! I remembered something about the computer not working below 9V. > I hooked the charger and went for a long lunch with the airport bums..Came > back in 3 hrs and BINGO! started right away many times. > So the moral of the story is (I think?). If you have enough power to crank > the engine, does not mean that it will start. The starter pulls down all the > available juice and the computer takes a break. Any comments? > Buly