Return-Path: Received: from envelope.rose-hulman.edu ([137.112.8.21] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP-TLS id 594185 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:53:24 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=137.112.8.21; envelope-from=madsena@rose-hulman.edu Received: from bob (dhcp024-160-204-151.ma.rr.com [24.160.204.151]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by envelope.rose-hulman.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j075qhv25185 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 00:52:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200501070552.j075qhv25185@envelope.rose-hulman.edu> From: "Alex Madsen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Orange County (was Paying Taxes on your plane) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 00:52:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C4F453.1FB36550" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcT0PYLtDwqmlM5BS0eEiX/T3c33KAAPzSBg In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C4F453.1FB36550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You got to love tax free NH, no sales or income tax and the lowest overall tax load in the country. Alex Madsen _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jim Sower Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:19 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Orange County (was Paying Taxes on your plane) I bought my Velocity in NH. I would have had to pay >9% sales tax in NY where I lived, and real high registration fees. I registered it in NH, rented a PO Box (in one of those ship stores so the address doesn't look like a PO box), all for about $60/yr. I rented a tie-down at the airport there, all for <$200 /yr and sub-let it for ~$150. Why couldn't you CA folks do that in AZ? Or UT, NM, etc.? The NH airport I rented tie down at is covered with corporate jets from NY and CT where everything is high. Sort of like registering a corporation in Delaware. Or, when you get tired of being "Californicated", just move to TN where hangars rent for $150 and there's NO registration AT ALL. Several ways to skin a cat ... Jim S. Jack Ford wrote: Folks, This is a response I wrote the other day to a feller asking about California taxation on the Cozy list. I have my own story to tell, but it's too long for this and not germain to rotaries. Suffice to say it is bizarre. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Ford" To: "Nollid P Leinad" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Paying Taxes on your plane Dan, I escaped from California, your area, and on purpose. Orange County(or whatever county you base your plane in) Is authorized to collect an annual personal property tax based on a percentage of the value of your plane. I guarantee that they won't waive it. The State Board of Equalization doesn't care for a minute where you bought your material, you'll get hit with a use tax as soon as the FAA tells them you've registered the plane. You might as well get the material at Spruce because they are only 18 miles or so from your house. You'll save a bundle on shipping, you can inventory before you accept the material and the use tax becomes a non-issue. Borrow or rent a Pickup truck. In California, try to never look too prosperous, They want a cut. Don't try to hide anything. They are absoluteoy implacable in their pursuit of your money, and they have developed extortion to a science. They also have sovereign immunity, which means that you have no recourse against any little thing they may think up to do to you, even if you win your case in court. Good Luck, Jack Ford (Enjoying the snow in Eastern Washington). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nollid P Leinad" To: "Cozy Builders" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: COZY: Paying Taxes on your plane Here is a question that I had not given enough thought to. How much is this project going to cost me in fees? Fees to the FAA? Fees to the State of California? Are there any property taxes to deal with? I got an e-mail from a suppler this morning that said there is no sales tax for shipping into California, but there may be sales tax consequences later on by the state of California. Anyway... it had gotten me thinking about the various non-materials costs of this project. Anyone want to comment? Dan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ______________________________________________________________ Cozy_builders mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cozy_builders Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:Cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C4F453.1FB36550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You got to love tax free NH, no = sales or income tax and the lowest overall tax load in the country. =

 

Alex = Madsen

 

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jim = Sower
Sent: Thursday, January = 06, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Fw: Orange = County (was Paying Taxes on your plane)

 

I bought my Velocity in NH.  I would = have had to pay >9% sales tax in NY where I lived, and real high registration fees.  I registered it in NH, rented a PO Box (in one of those ship = stores so the address doesn't look like a PO box), all for about $60/yr. I = rented a tie-down at the airport there, all for <$200 /yr and sub-let it for ~$150.  Why couldn't you CA folks do that in AZ?  Or UT, NM, etc.? 

The NH airport I rented tie down at is covered with corporate jets from NY and CT where everything is = high.  Sort of like registering a corporation in Delaware.  Or, when you get = tired of being "Californicated", just move to TN where hangars rent for = $150 and there's NO registration AT ALL.

Several ways to skin a cat ... Jim S.

Jack Ford wrote: 

Folks,
 
This is a response I wrote the other day to a =
feller asking about California
taxation on the Cozy =
list.
 
I have my own story to tell, but it's too =
long for this and not germain =
to
rotaries. Suffice to say it is =
bizarre.
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =

From: "Jack Ford" <jackoford@theofficenet.com=
>
To: "Nollid P Leinad" <biaspoint@yahoo.com><=
/o:p>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:58 =
PM
Subject: Re: Paying Taxes on your =
plane
 
 
  =




Dan,
 
I escaped from California, =
your area, and on purpose.
Orange =
County(or whatever county you =
base your plane in) Is authorized to
collect an annual personal property tax based =
on a percentage of the value
of your plane. I guarantee that they won't =
waive it.
 
The State Board of Equalization doesn't care =
for a minute where you bought
your material, you'll get hit with a use tax =
as soon as the FAA tells them
you've registered the plane. You might as =
well get the material at Spruce
because they are only 18 miles or so from =
your house. You'll save a =
bundle
on shipping, you can inventory before you =
accept the material and the use
tax becomes a non-issue. Borrow or rent a =
Pickup truck.
 
In California, =
try to never look too prosperous, They want a =
cut.
 
Don't try to hide anything. They are =
absoluteoy implacable in their
    =




pursuit
  =




of your money, and they have developed =
extortion to a science. They =
also
have sovereign immunity, which means that you =
have no recourse against any
little thing they may think up to do to you, =
even if you win your case in
court.
 
Good =
Luck,
 
Jack Ford (Enjoying the snow in Eastern =
Washington).
 
----- Original Message ----- =

From: "Nollid P Leinad" <biaspoint@yahoo.com><=
/o:p>
To: "Cozy Builders" <cozy_builders@mailman.q=
th.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:18 =
PM
Subject: COZY: Paying Taxes on your =
plane
 
 
    =




Here is a question that I had not given =
enough thought to.
 
How much is this project going to cost me in =
fees?
Fees to the =
FAA?
Fees to the State of California?<=
/pre>
Are there any property taxes to deal =
with?
 
I got an e-mail from a suppler this morning =
that said there is no sales
      =




tax =
for
    =




shipping into California, =
but there may be sales tax consequences =
later
      =







on
  =




by
    =




the state of California.  Anyway... it had gotten me =
thinking about the
      =




various
    =




non-materials costs of this =
project.
 
Anyone want to =
comment?
 
Dan
 
 
 
 
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