Return-Path: Received: from mail.theofficenet.com ([65.166.240.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with SMTP id 593709 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 15:29:37 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.166.240.5; envelope-from=jackoford@theofficenet.com Received: (qmail 327 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2005 20:13:31 -0000 Received: from dpc691941229.direcpc.com (HELO jack) (69.19.41.229) by mail.theofficenet.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2005 20:13:31 -0000 Message-ID: <00b201c4f42e$4b1be9d0$0200a8c0@jack> From: "Jack Ford" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Paying Taxes on your plane) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:28:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C4F3EB.39DDFC50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C4F3EB.39DDFC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keep checking your 6 o'clock Al. Jack Ford ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Al Gietzen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Paying Taxes on your plane)=20 I'm in CA, (San Diego county), and when I got my N number I did get a = notice from the county wanting information on value, etc.; and informing = me that I would have to pay tax. I simply responded with a note that = what I had was rolls of fiberglass cloth, bottles of epoxy, nuts and = bolts, etc; and that it would be many years before it would be an = airplane. Never heard from them again. Al -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Jack Ford Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:53 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Fw: Orange County (was Paying Taxes on your = plane)=20 Folks, This is a response I wrote the other day to a feller asking about = California taxation on the Cozy list. I have my own story to tell, but it's too long for this and not = germain to rotaries. Suffice to say it is bizarre. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Jack Ford" To: "Nollid P Leinad" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Paying Taxes on your plane > Dan, > > I escaped from California, your area, and on purpose. > Orange County(or whatever county you base your plane in) Is = authorized to > collect an annual personal property tax based on a percentage of the = value > of your plane. I guarantee that they won't waive it. > > The State Board of Equalization doesn't care for a minute where you = bought > your material, you'll get hit with a use tax as soon as the FAA = tells them > you've registered the plane. You might as well get the material at = Spruce > because they are only 18 miles or so from your house. You'll save a = bundle > on shipping, you can inventory before you accept the material and = the use > tax becomes a non-issue. Borrow or rent a Pickup truck. > > In California, try to never look too prosperous, They want a cut. > > Don't try to hide anything. They are absoluteoy implacable in their pursuit > of your money, and they have developed extortion to a science. They = also > have sovereign immunity, which means that you have no recourse = against any > little thing they may think up to do to you, even if you win your = case in > court. > > Good Luck, > > Jack Ford (Enjoying the snow in Eastern Washington). > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Nollid P Leinad" > To: "Cozy Builders" > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:18 PM > Subject: COZY: Paying Taxes on your plane > > > > Here is a question that I had not given enough thought to. > > > > How much is this project going to cost me in fees? > > Fees to the FAA? > > Fees to the State of California? > > Are there any property taxes to deal with? > > > > I got an e-mail from a suppler this morning that said there is no = sales > tax for > > shipping into California, but there may be sales tax consequences = later on > by > > the state of California. Anyway... it had gotten me thinking = about the > various > > non-materials costs of this project. > > > > Anyone want to comment? > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Cozy_builders mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cozy_builders > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > > Post: mailto:Cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C4F3EB.39DDFC50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Keep checking your 6 o'clock = Al.
 
Jack Ford
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Al = Gietzen=20
Sent: Thursday, January 06, = 2005 12:13=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Paying = Taxes on your=20 plane)

I=92m in CA, = (San = Diego county), and when = I got my N=20 number I did get a notice from the county wanting information on = value, etc.;=20 and informing me that I would have to pay tax.  I simply = responded with a=20 note that what I had was rolls of fiberglass cloth, bottles of epoxy, = nuts and=20 bolts, etc; and that it would be many years before it would be an=20 airplane.  Never heard from them again.

 

Al

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jack = Ford
Sent:=20 Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Rotary motors = in=20 aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Fw: Orange County (was Paying Taxes = on your=20 plane)

 

Folks,

 

This is a response I wrote the other day to = a feller=20 asking about California

taxation on the Cozy list.

 

I=20 have my own story to tell, but it's too long for this and not germain=20 to

rotaries. Suffice to say it is=20 bizarre.

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message ----- =

From: "Jack Ford"=20 <jackoford@theofficenet.com>

To: "Nollid P Leinad"=20 <biaspoint@yahoo.com>

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, = 2005 4:58=20 PM

Subject: Re: Paying Taxes on your=20 plane

 

 

> Dan,

>

> I escaped from = California, your=20 area, and on purpose.

> Orange County(or whatever = county=20 you base your plane in) Is authorized to

> collect an annual personal property tax = based on=20 a percentage of the value

> of your plane. I guarantee that they = won't waive=20 it.

>

> The State Board of Equalization doesn't = care for=20 a minute where you bought

> your material, you'll get hit with a = use tax as=20 soon as the FAA tells them

> you've registered the plane. You might = as well=20 get the material at Spruce

> because they are only 18 miles or so = from your=20 house. You'll save a bundle

> on shipping, you can inventory before = you accept=20 the material and the use

> tax becomes a non-issue. Borrow or rent = a Pickup=20 truck.

>

> In California, try to = never look=20 too prosperous, They want a cut.

>

> Don't try to hide anything. They are = absoluteoy=20 implacable in their

pursuit

> of your money, and they have developed = extortion=20 to a science. They also

> have sovereign immunity, which means = that you=20 have no recourse against any

> little thing they may think up to do to = you, even=20 if you win your case in

> court.

>

> Good Luck,

>

> Jack Ford (Enjoying the snow in=20 Eastern Washington).

>

> ----- Original Message ----- =

> From: "Nollid P Leinad"=20 <biaspoint@yahoo.com>

> To: "Cozy Builders"=20 <cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net>

> Sent: Wednesday, January = 05, 2005=20 1:18 PM

> Subject: COZY: Paying Taxes on your=20 plane

>

>

> > Here is a question that I had not = given=20 enough thought to.

> >

> > How much is this project going to = cost me in=20 fees?

> > Fees to the FAA?

> > Fees to the State of=20 California?

> > Are there any property taxes to = deal=20 with?

> >

> > I got an e-mail from a suppler = this morning=20 that said there is no sales

> tax for

> > shipping into = California, but=20 there may be sales tax consequences later

on

> by

> > the state of = California. =20 Anyway... it had gotten me thinking about the

> various

> > non-materials costs of this=20 project.

> >

> > Anyone want to = comment?

> >

> > Dan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >=20 __________________________________

> > Do you Yahoo!?

> > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it = on your=20 mobile phone.

> >=20 http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

> >=20 = ______________________________________________________________

> > Cozy_builders mailing = list

> > Home:=20 = http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cozy_builders

> > Help:=20 http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html

> > Post:=20 mailto:Cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net

> >

>

 

 

>>  Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary.com/

>>  Archive:  =20 = http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html

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