Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao08.cox.net ([68.230.241.31] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 593688 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 15:14:00 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.31; envelope-from=ALVentures@cox.net Received: from BigAl ([68.7.14.39]) by fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20050106201328.FZJI27771.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@BigAl> for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:13:28 -0500 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: Paying Taxes on your plane) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:13:31 -0800 Message-ID: <002201c4f42c$311b0810$6400a8c0@BigAl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C4F3E9.22FA1200" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C4F3E9.22FA1200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in CA, (San Diego county), and when I got my N number I did get a = notice from the county wanting information on value, etc.; and informing me = that I would have to pay tax. I simply responded with a note that what I had = was rolls of fiberglass cloth, bottles of epoxy, nuts and bolts, etc; and = that it would be many years before it would be an airplane. Never heard from them again. =20 Al =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jack Ford Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:53 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Fw: Orange County (was Paying Taxes on your plane)=20 =20 Folks, =20 This is a response I wrote the other day to a feller asking about = California taxation on the Cozy list. =20 I have my own story to tell, but it's too long for this and not germain = to rotaries. Suffice to say it is bizarre. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Jack Ford" To: "Nollid P Leinad" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Paying Taxes on your plane =20 =20 > Dan, > > I escaped from California, your area, and on purpose. > Orange County(or whatever county you base your plane in) Is authorized = to > collect an annual personal property tax based on a percentage of the = value > of your plane. I guarantee that they won't waive it. > > The State Board of Equalization doesn't care for a minute where you = bought > your material, you'll get hit with a use tax as soon as the FAA tells = them > you've registered the plane. You might as well get the material at = Spruce > because they are only 18 miles or so from your house. You'll save a = bundle > on shipping, you can inventory before you accept the material and the = use > tax becomes a non-issue. Borrow or rent a Pickup truck. > > In California, try to never look too prosperous, They want a cut. > > Don't try to hide anything. They are absoluteoy implacable in their pursuit > of your money, and they have developed extortion to a science. They = also > have sovereign immunity, which means that you have no recourse against = any > little thing they may think up to do to you, even if you win your case = in > court. > > Good Luck, > > Jack Ford (Enjoying the snow in Eastern Washington). > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Nollid P Leinad" > To: "Cozy Builders" > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:18 PM > Subject: COZY: Paying Taxes on your plane > > > > Here is a question that I had not given enough thought to. > > > > How much is this project going to cost me in fees? > > Fees to the FAA? > > Fees to the State of California? > > Are there any property taxes to deal with? > > > > I got an e-mail from a suppler this morning that said there is no = sales > tax for > > shipping into California, but there may be sales tax consequences = later on > by > > the state of California. Anyway... it had gotten me thinking about = the > various > > non-materials costs of this project. > > > > Anyone want to comment? > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Cozy_builders mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cozy_builders > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > > Post: mailto:Cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net > > > =20 =20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C4F3E9.22FA1200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’m in CA, (San Diego county), and when I got my N number I did = get a notice from the county wanting information on value, etc.; and informing = me that I would have to pay tax.  I simply responded with a note that = what I had was rolls of fiberglass cloth, bottles of epoxy, nuts and bolts, = etc; and that it would be many years before it would be an airplane.  Never = heard from them again.

 

Al

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Jack Ford
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Fw: Orange County (was Paying Taxes on your plane) =

 

Folks,

 

This is a response I wrote the other day to a feller asking about = California

taxation on the Cozy list.

 

I have my own story to tell, but it's too long for this and not germain = to

rotaries. Suffice to say it is bizarre.

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jack Ford" = <jackoford@theofficenet.com>

To: "Nollid P Leinad" = <biaspoint@yahoo.com>

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:58 PM

Subject: Re: Paying Taxes on your plane

 

 

> Dan,

>

> I escaped from California, your area, and on purpose.

> Orange County(or whatever county you base your plane in) = Is authorized to

> collect an annual personal property tax based on a percentage of the = value

> of your plane. I guarantee that they won't waive it.

>

> The State Board of Equalization doesn't care for a minute where you = bought

> your material, you'll get hit with a use tax as soon as the FAA tells = them

> you've registered the plane. You might as well get the material at = Spruce

> because they are only 18 miles or so from your house. You'll save a = bundle

> on shipping, you can inventory before you accept the material and the = use

> tax becomes a non-issue. Borrow or rent a Pickup = truck.

>

> In California, try to never look too prosperous, They want = a cut.

>

> Don't try to hide anything. They are absoluteoy implacable in = their

pursuit

> of your money, and they have developed extortion to a science. They = also

> have sovereign immunity, which means that you have no recourse against = any

> little thing they may think up to do to you, even if you win your case = in

> court.

>

> Good Luck,

>

> Jack Ford (Enjoying the snow in Eastern Washington).

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Nollid P Leinad" = <biaspoint@yahoo.com>

> To: "Cozy Builders" = <cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net>

> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:18 PM

> Subject: COZY: Paying Taxes on your plane

>

>

> > Here is a question that I had not given enough thought = to.

> >

> > How much is this project going to cost me in = fees?

> > Fees to the FAA?

> > Fees to the State of California?

> > Are there any property taxes to deal with?

> >

> > I got an e-mail from a suppler this morning that said there is no = sales

> tax for

> > shipping into California, but there may be sales tax consequences later

on

> by

> > the state of California.  Anyway... it had = gotten me thinking about the

> various

> > non-materials costs of this project.

> >

> > Anyone want to comment?

> >

> > Dan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________

> > Do you Yahoo!?

> > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile = phone.

> > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

> > = ______________________________________________________________

> > Cozy_builders mailing list

> > Home: = http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/cozy_builders

> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html

> > Post: mailto:Cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net

> >

>

 

 

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