Return-Path: Received: from epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 593579 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 13:29:46 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.217.120.181; envelope-from=j-winddesigns@thegrid.net Received: from sdn-ap-016ilchicp0276.dialsprint.net ([65.176.161.22] helo=thegrid.net) by epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CmcNo-000432-00 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:29:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:29:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] exhaust port shape Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-27461148 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jerry Hey To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) --Apple-Mail-2-27461148 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kevin, what I am doing is welding the 2" o.d. pipe to the flange on=20= the inside. This should be a 360 degree weld. Then use your die=20 grinder to knock down the bead and make a smooth path for the exhaust=20 gas. On the outside of the flange, just weld in three or four places=20= (one inch long welds) to provide good structure, while at the same=20= time allowing room for expansion and contraction. Jerry On Thursday, January 6, 2005, at 01:08 PM, kevin lane wrote: > I decided to have my exhaust flanges recut to better match the ports.=A0= =20 > Originally I simply had a 2" dia hole.=A0 How important is it to match=20= > the shape of the ports, which is a collection of radiuses, straight=20 > sides, fillets and even a sort of non-tangential "fillet".=A0 It = appears=20 > that a 1 7/8" OD tube could be hammered to match this shape if I had=20= > it cut in the flange.=A0 A 2" OD tube left round=A0also looks like it=20= > would cover the port, but would leave edges where the straight edges=20= > of the port would dump into a round pipe.=A0 These areas are very=20 > small.=A0 My welder says that he routinely hammers exhaust pipes into=20= > "square" shapes, that the ports usually aren't round anyways.=A0 He = can=20 > stretch the pipe to a bigger dia., although I don't think that is a=20 > great idea, despite my using 1/16" wall 321 s/s.=A0 I realize that I=20= > don't want the exhaust gas to collide with a smaller exhaust pipe=20 > shape, but what about a larger size?=A0 Is it OK to spill into a=20 > slightly larger size?=A0 Am I worrying too much about a small detail, = or=20 > is this worth the time and effort? > Kevin Lane=A0 Portland, OR > e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net > web-> http://home.comcast.net/~n3773 > (browse w/ internet explorer) --Apple-Mail-2-27461148 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kevin, what I am doing is welding the 2" o.d. pipe to the flange on the inside. This should be a 360 degree weld. Then use your die grinder to knock down the bead and make a smooth path for the exhaust gas. On the outside of the flange, just weld in three or four places (one inch long welds) to provide good structure, while at the same time allowing room for expansion and contraction. Jerry On Thursday, January 6, 2005, at 01:08 PM, kevin lane wrote: Comic Sans = MS0000,0000,0000I decided to have my exhaust flanges recut to better match the ports.=A0 Originally I simply had a 2" dia hole.=A0 How important is it to match the shape of the ports, which is a collection of radiuses, straight sides, fillets and even a sort of non-tangential "fillet".=A0 It appears that a 1 7/8" OD tube could be hammered to match this shape if I had it cut in the flange.=A0 A 2" OD tube left round=A0also looks like it would cover the port, but would leave edges where the straight edges of the port would dump into a round pipe.=A0 These areas are very small.=A0 My welder says that he routinely hammers exhaust pipes into "square" shapes, that the ports usually aren't round anyways.=A0 He can stretch the pipe to a bigger dia., although I don't think that is a great idea, despite my using 1/16" wall 321 s/s.=A0 I realize that I don't want the exhaust gas to collide with a smaller exhaust pipe shape, but what about a larger size?=A0 Is it OK to spill into a slightly larger size?=A0 Am I worrying too much about a small detail, or is this worth the time and = effort?0000,0000,0000 ArialKevin Lane=A0 Portland, OR e-mail-> = Arial= 1999,1999,FFFFn3773@comcast.net = Arial0000,0000,0000web-> = 1999,1999,FFFF= http://home.comcast.net/~n3773 = 0000,0000,0000(browse w/ internet = explorer)0000,0000,0000 = --Apple-Mail-2-27461148--