Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao03.cox.net ([68.230.241.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 592116 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:20:26 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.36; envelope-from=daveleonard@cox.net Received: from davidandanne ([68.111.224.107]) by fed1rmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with SMTP id <20050105141955.WKEO8778.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@davidandanne> for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:19:55 -0500 From: "DaveLeonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: IAS and Vne! Whoa! Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 06:22:01 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal My RMI encoder has the ability to display speed in Mach number as well. However, I believe that when top speed is a function of Mach number it is not a flutter issue, but an issue of localized trans-sonic airflow on the airframe - usually around the engine intake. I doubt that the Lancairs are experiencing issues with near sonic air flow except possibly at the propeller tips. That being said, mach number is going to more accurately represent a given TAS than would the IAS (mach number would be even more conservative as it will increase slightly as you go higher while IAS decreases significantly - given you are flying at a fixed TAS). I am sure the Chelton has the ability to display TAS as well, so I wonder why they use mach number instead of TAS. It could be for the propeller tips but more likely just to sound cool. Maybe I will start flying around with mach number on display and see how it goes. ;-) Dave Leonard > > "Ed Anderson" wrote: > > """ > The bottom line is that at the higher altitudes your indicated airspeed > gauge > can be showing you safely below the Red Vne mark but, your True > Airspeed may > be exceeding Vne by a considerably margin putting your airframe in a > potentially danger zone of flutter. > """ > > The Lancair IVPs, being designed for turbocharged flight, spend > most of their > cruise time in the flight levels. Vne for that aircraft is mach > .52... the > Cheltons (and other glass cockpits, I imagine) have the ability > to monitor > that speed directly, and Vne is adjusted and displayed based on > altitude, OAT, > etc (ie, TAS). The Vne parameter is entered as a mach number in > the Chelton's > setup mode. Pretty amazing stuff. > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html